Some GOP lawmakers now flout anti-tax man Norquist

November 26, 2012 @ 11:52 pm


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WASHINGTON (AP) - For decades, conservative lobbyist Grover Norquist vowed to drive Republicans out of office if they didn't pledge to oppose tax increases. Many lawmakers signed on.

But now, several senior Republicans are breaking ranks, willing to consider raising more money through taxes as part of a deal with Democrats to avoid a catastrophic budget meltdown.

Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker says the only pledge he will keep is his oath of office. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says no one in his home state of Virginia is talking about what leaders in Washington refer to simply as "The Pledge," a Norquist invention that dates to 1986. Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss says he cares more about his country than sticking to Norquist's pledge.

It's quite an about-face for senior members of a party that long has stood firmly against almost any notion of tax increases. And while GOP leaders insist they still don't want to see taxes go up, the reality of a nation in a debt crisis is forcing some to moderate their opposition to any movement on how much Americans pay to fund their government. Republican legislators and Democratic President Barack Obama's White House are haggling vigorously as they look for ways to reach agreement on detailed tax adjustments and spending cuts before automatic, blunt-force changes occur at the new year.

"Oh, I signed it," Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama said on Fox News about Norquist's pledge, adding he still supports its goals. "But we've got to deal with the crisis we face. We've got to deal with the political reality of the president's victory."

The naysaying about the pledge is raising the question of whether Norquist _ a little-known Republican outside Washington _ is losing his position of power within the GOP. It's a notion he calls ridiculous.

"Nobody's turning on me," Norquist said Monday.

But he indicated he would turn on lawmakers who defy him, starting with Corker, who published an opinion piece Monday in The Washington Post outlining an alternative to the budget breakdown that includes more revenue.

"Corker was elected to the Senate because he took the pledge," Norquist said on Fox News. "He would not be a senator today if he hadn't made that commitment. If he breaks it, he's going to have to have a conversation with the people of Tennessee about his keeping his word. And the same thing with other people who are elected because they made that written commitment to the people of their state."

At the White House, spokesman Jay Carney said Monday that the shifting away from Norquist signaled an opportunity for Republicans to work with President Obama.

"They represent what we hope is a difference in tone and approach to these problems and a recognition that a balanced approach to deficit reduction is the right approach," Carney said.

Norquist, the head of the conservative Americans for Tax Reform, opposes tax increases of any kind, whether eliminating deductions, a position some GOP lawmakers say they're open to, or raising rates. He has insisted on hardline positions from lawmakers and, for years, has held outsized sway in the party for someone who does not hold public office. His pledge doesn't allow any change to the tax code that adds a dollar to revenues.

House Speaker John Boehner has called that notion unrealistic and has dismissed Norquist as "some random person."

Nevertheless, Norquist has maintained a certain level of clout for years.

Heading into the 2012 elections, 279 lawmakers had signed Norquist's' pledge, according to Americans for Tax Reform.

But some who have signed the pledge are having second thoughts. And when the new House is seated next year, no more than 212 of them consider themselves bound by the promise.

"I'm not obligated on the pledge," Corker told CBS News. "I was just elected. The only thing I'm honoring is the oath I take when I serve when I'm sworn in this January."

He's not alone in his stance on the pledge.

"When I go to the constituents that have re-elected me, it is not about that pledge," Cantor said on MSNBC. "It really is about trying to solve problems."

Chambliss, a veteran senator from Georgia, said he signed the pledge during an earlier campaign when the country's debt was nowhere near its current $16 trillion level.

"Times have changed significantly, and I care more about my country than I do about a 20-year-old pledge," Chambliss told his local television station. "If we do it (Norquist's) way, then we'll continue in debt."

"I'm frankly not concerned about the Norquist pledge," Chambliss added.

Raising taxes, whether by closing loopholes or raising tax rates, is seldom a vote-winning strategy.

President George H.W. Bush broke his campaign promise to not raise taxes; he ended up losing re-election in 1992.

Other Republicans, however, are now willing to put additional tax revenues on the table as a bargaining chip for a deal with Democrats to get changes in Social Security and Medicare and pare down federal deficits.

"I agree with Grover, we shouldn't raise rates. But I think Grover is wrong when it comes to we can't cap deductions and buy down debt," Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said Sunday on ABC's "This Week."

"I will violate the pledge _ long story short _ for the good of the country, only if Democrats will do entitlement reform," he added.

Rep. Peter King of New York told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday that the pledge is good for a two-year term only.

"A pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that Congress," King said. "For instance, if I were in Congress in 1941, I would have signed a support of declaration of war against Japan. I'm not going to attack Japan today. The world has changed, and the economic situation is different."

Sen. John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee in 2008, said the pledge is losing its clout.

"Fewer and fewer people are signing this, quote, pledge," he told an audience recently.


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  • wsualumn wrote...
    It's About Time
    November 27, 2012 3:11 am
    Some of these folks decided to pledge the flag and not Grover Norquist. Stick with Grover and karl Rove and watch the GOP Party disappear. Some of them are starting to figure it out.
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  • maplefish wrote...
    Oh please
    November 27, 2012 9:18 am
    The flag? Really? So higher taxes and bigger government is a allegiance to the flag? You on he Left are so reckless & dishonest it's pathetic. How on earth can we continue to keep spending $1.5 Tillion over what we are taking in every year? You could raise taxes on everyone in this country and it would never be enough. Greedy incompetent idiots who have NO CLUE how economics work.
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @maplefish....
    November 27, 2012 9:47 am
    I see that you would appear to beleive that an oath of allegiance to Grover Norquist and his absolutely no taxes raised no matter what' isn't a conflict with the oath of office where a congressman pledges an oath of allegiance to the Constitution, The United States of America and the American people. I'm surprised at you. If the dems had taken an oath of any kind you'd be screaming how unpatriotic an oath to anything other than the Constitution, the country and it's citizens is. No one wants to continue to spend like drunken sailors, not even the libs and dems that you continue to spew hatred of. The issue is not 'unrestrained spending' - it's how do we HONESTLY approach and resolve the deficit and spending problem. Can we resolve it by adhering to The Supreme un-elected leader Norquist, while risking massive damage to the economy or do we take a more balanced approach and raise some taxes while making realistic and significant cuts? I believe from everything I've seen that Obama sincerely wants to take the more balanced approach to accomplish this while Republicans have been taking the Supreme un-elected leader's path of 'no Fxxxing tax increases EVER. Obama's comprimised substantially since he got to office - Republicans haven't. It's time that BOTH sides comprimise because there is NEVER only one way to solve a problem as large and complex as this one. Anyone who demands otherwise is either a fool or a blinded by rhetoric idiot.
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  • maplefish wrote...
    Sarg
    November 27, 2012 10:56 am
    It's not a revenue problem. It's a SPENDING problem. If you have ever run a business then maybe you understand what I mean. And the class warfare - tax the rich- is flat out pathetic. I am not against paying taxes. Even paying a little more, but I am sick & tired of the incessant greed and unaccountable waste that seems to be multiplying on a daily bass. I have not seen anything by Obama that would indicate he has any intention of compromise. He simply turns around and blames it on Republicans. And you, of course buy right into it. Look at the numbers. They don't lie. Obama is hellbent on bankrupting the country and blaming it on the rich. Pay attention man!
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  • maplefish wrote...
    BTW-Sarg
    November 27, 2012 11:11 am
    I pay over 50% tax on my income. How much more do you think is fair? Why is it that people like you & WSU & Wrongway think that's not my fair share? This is why under Obama and this rhetoric of rich folks need to pay their fair share bullllshitt is very dangerous for the overall well bing of his country. I earned my money. I pay way more than most. I put my 3 kids through. College with ZERO help from the government and yet, I am demonized by my President. It is very unfair, irresponsible and dangerous.
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @maplefish... You clearly didn't comprehend what I wrote...
    November 27, 2012 12:58 pm
    1) I never said I support 'more taxes' or 'no spending cuts'. I said that Obama clearly believes that a balanced approach is the right one and that Republicans are beholden to thier oath of allegiance to Norquist. 2) For every 'rich' person actually paying 50% taxes there are many, many paying far, far less than that. In fact, if you're paying 50% taxes, you clearly have the wrong accountants and tax advisors because you clearly are getting the wrong advice on where to put your money and how to minimize taxes upon it. 3) The people being demonized are those that are rich and paying far, far less than you are. 4) playing the game of 'only my way is right' (it's a spending problem and cannot be anything else) is petty and a false answer. As I said before, there is never just one answer to complex problems like the deficit. 5) I bet you would not tolerate any significant cuts in federal spending for the things YOU want the feds to spend on, so let's get real. We need to be willing to entertain ALL options and stop playing this game of 'my way is the only way that can be allowed'. It lost the Republicans the election, it will push them into obscurity if they don't change thier ways. I'm not wanting tax increases - but I'm also not willing to accept that MOST rich people are paying the lowest tax rates in 50 or so years (and this Republican job creators need lower tax rates to be able to create jobs BS hasn't fixed the economy yet - if the rhetoric was true, it would have already fixed the economy, regardless of what Obama's actually done). The only people who actually believe that Obama's here to destroy America are the right wing extremists who've convinced themselves of thier own rhetoric and distortions. Reality is quite different than the false reality created by these folks. And btw - I think it's unfair, irresponsible and dangerous to demand that only the right wing way is the only possible way to fix America's problems. There's a balance where both sides of any issue can be reasonably balanced and we can fix these issues.
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    Maplefish -oh, and one more thing...
    November 27, 2012 1:00 pm
    I'd like to see the breakdown of taxes - what part are federal income taxes and what part are social security, state, etc. on your 50% of your income paid in taxes. Not that I'm nosy, but we should make sure that you and I are comparing apples to apples and not 'everything you pay in taxes to everyone else quoting just the portion they pay in income taxes).
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  • maplefish wrote...
    Sarg
    November 27, 2012 2:25 pm
    First off, I understood what you said and although I o agree with you there needs to be a balance, it's just more typical left wing rhetoric. Second, I have an excellent accountant. And i will have enough $$$ to last 100 years. i m not a tax cheat and believe wholehearted in paying my taxes. Third, I do not believe that the Right wing way is the only way to go. However, If you follow what Obama is doing, well, it is nothing. He's still campaigning and holding photo opps with business leaders in the name of working with people. he's not working with Congress. Why is he not sitting down with Boehner and putting ideas on the table? If he's so concerned about resolving this fiscal cliff, then why isn't he leading and reaching across the table to compromise? He has NO intention of working with the Right. He'd rather see the country go off the cliff so he can blame the Republicans. Americans voted him in. I will support him as my President, but it is now time for him to stop being a celebrity and start being a Leader. We will see, but I don't think he even wants to work with Congress. .
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @Maplefish
    November 28, 2012 6:12 am
    "Why is he not sitting down with Boehner and putting ideas on the table?" -- Umm, he and his people have been, are currently doing so and if you are unwilling to accept that reality, well, the rest of your diatribe is a waste of your time.
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  • Fuego wrote...
    Simple math
    November 27, 2012 7:02 am
    would help some of these politicians. The issue isn't raising taxes; it's the out of control spending. Raise taxes to 80% on everyone if you think that will help and when you still need to borrow money from China don't be surprised if you've run out of rich people.
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  • Hayduke wrote...
    maplefish: "I pay over 50% tax on my income."
    November 27, 2012 1:12 pm
    Really? Care to explain how, considering that the top tier for income tax is now just 36%?

    And when you consider the percentage that your guy, Mitt Romney pays (14%, or at least that's what he admits to paying), it would seem you're getting shafted.

    So do tell, I'm very interested how it is you pay significantly more than you should.

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  • maplefish wrote...
    Nope, not shafted
    November 27, 2012 2:42 pm
    Just a good American paying taxes on income from many different sources. Ummm, there are too many taxes to list, but I can tell you Property taxes add up quickly. all you have to do is add up all the things you own and all that you buy and all that you pay for and it ads up very quickly. i do have an excellent accounting firm that advises and handles my finances, but overall more than half of my income goes to taxes. some of that is deductible, but most still goes to the government. I been very fortunate in my 50 years. i have more than some & less than many. I worked hard to achieve it and I am very thankful for everything I have. This country offers the same opportunity to everyone. I simply made good decisions and smart investments. But I do not feel I should pay anymore than I already do. Simple as that. There will never be enough tax revenue for the Obama administration. More taxes are NOT going o solve the spending problem.
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  • wsualumn wrote...
    Maple
    November 27, 2012 4:59 pm
    The Bush Tax Cuts have been in effect for 12 years. They haven't done the magic that he or other republicans claimed that it would. The deficit wasn't erased and unemployment didn't drop like they claimed. Read what top economists say: cut spending and raise some taxes. Buffet even endorses this plan. Remember how The GOP screamed about how terrible The Clinton taxes were and all of the problems it would cause? They were wrong then and they are wrong now.
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  • maplefish wrote...
    WSU WRONG
    November 27, 2012 5:52 pm
    Warren Buffett just came out today and said the tax increases on the wealthy should be minimal.... Your left wing, rich guy, hero, just shut Obama's hate the rich game plan. BTW- the only reason Buffet was ever buddies with Obama is because his company, Berkshire Hathaway owes over a $Billion in back taxes. Pay attention and look deeper my liberal friends. Barak Hussein Obama is NOT the savior of the United States that you have been brain washed into believing he is. I hope for the best for my country, but this guy is a fraud. Turning successful people into the bad guys is a very dangerous agenda. Divisiveness is only the beginning of bad things that can and may very well happen to this once great country. We used to be the land of opportunity. The liberals are turning us into a hate filled, jealous, envious, angry bunch of losers. I for one do not fall for this divisive rhetoric. This country and all of us are so much better than what are are tolerating.
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  • maplefish wrote...
    BTW WSU
    November 27, 2012 6:06 pm
    Clinton had the luxury of the dot.com bubble. There was literally an influx of imaginary stream of wealth & revenue that flowed right into the treasury like we had never seen. And as always, you on the Left conveniently forget that that dot.com bubble had burst just as Clinton was leaving office....Remember? Hmmmm? I do, because I sold my first company for millions right before it happened. I was barely 30. Ohhh, and then there was that pesky little 9/11 attack on our country that literally shut the economy down for almost a year...Clinton was nothing more than the lucky recipient of a boom that temporarily generated an opportunity for this country to find some common ground. Anyway, go ahead, tax away and fool yourselves into hating the wealthy. Eventually, there won't be any of us to hate. Then what will all you brain dead, left wing, hate filled sheep gonna do?
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  • maplefish wrote...
    And Mr. Clinton
    November 27, 2012 7:23 pm
    Was also a convicted, impeached LIAR and several times over accused SEX Predator, so your cool budget guy still doesn't hold much credibility with those of us who hold our Presidents to a higher standard.
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  • wsualumn wrote...
    And Mr. Bush
    November 27, 2012 9:36 pm
    Was a the guy that had discussions with God regarding the invasion of Iraq. This guy, that you hold to a higher standard, was responsible for the deaths of thousands of American troops and many many more innocent Iraqi civilians. Clinton had his issues, but they pale in comparison to the religious president.
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  • maplefish wrote...
    And Mr. Clinton
    November 27, 2012 7:24 pm
    Was also a convicted, impeached LIAR and several times over accused SEX Predator, so your cool budget guy still doesn't hold much credibility with those of us who hold our Presidents to a higher standard.
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  • maplefish wrote...
    Not sure why that posted twice?
    November 27, 2012 7:47 pm
    Maybe it made so much sense even my iPad wanted it to stick....LOL
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @Maplefish
    November 28, 2012 6:23 am
    And the Republican persecution of Clinton went on for 8 years and all they got him on was being stupid enough to hide his affair while under oath. Wow. What a great return on all that hate and persecution. Allegations where thrown on all kinds of things and all they got was perjury - so the Republicans - while faced with far greater perils decided they had to impeach him because he lied about 'getting some'... Yes. We hold our Presidents to a higher standard. And we do the same for Congress - yet The Republicans in Congress don't seem to care that they as a group have the lowest satisfaction rating in history. They continue the same persecution tactics of old while the country falls further.... They'd rather attack the President than actually fix a damm thing. Yeah - you want to talk about someone who's not doing thier damm job? Look at your beloved Republicans in Congress. Even with the best Republican 'reality bubble' glasses, they still are failing massively.
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @maplefish part 2...
    November 28, 2012 6:24 am
    Oh, and don't forget how the persecution of Clinton made America look pathetic to the rest of the world. Persecution for an affair.... These 'family values' Republicans (many of whom were having thier own affairs at the time) made our country a laughing stock. Why aren't you holding thier feet to the fire the same way you are the President?
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  • wsualumn wrote...
    YOU DON'T GET IT
    November 27, 2012 9:28 pm
    Somehow you want to equate "hate" into this formula." I guess I could play that game as well and say "look at how much The GOP hates the middle class. They insist on cutting middle class programs while lowering taxes even more for the wealthy." I could play that game as well, but I am not going to. The tax cuts didn't work. Deal with it. Look at where we were as a country when we had a tax rate at 90% for the wealthy. Very little debt. Obama wants to raise the tax rates to where they were under Clinton: a 5% increase. Along with that, cut spending. A mixture of the two that economists say the formula to start reducing the deficit. It's a start. We have the third lowest tax rate in the industrialized world. Let me guess, not only was Clinton lucky, but Bush was a victim of The Dems.
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  • wsualumn wrote...
    Warren Buffett
    November 27, 2012 9:37 pm
    Said they should be at the same rate Obama has requested:MINIMAL! P.S. Those are the same rates we had under Clinton.
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @hayduke...
    November 28, 2012 6:16 am
    I'm sure that Maplefish is including every possible tax that he's paying (if he's being honest about the %, we don't know because comments are basically anonymous). I asked him to at least break out the %'s of what he's paying so that we could talk apples to apples, but he ignored that part of my comment. I do not honestly think he's paying 50% of his income as income taxes. If he does, he's got pathetically bad tax advisors and accountants.
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  • Hayduke wrote...
    maplefish, you need to clarify.
    November 27, 2012 8:13 pm
    In your earlier post you said,"I pay over 50% tax on my income."

    And later in your response to me, you said your "paying taxes on income from many different sources."

    So while that's a little different than your previous statement, it still leads people to believe you're talking about what you pay in INCOME TAX. But apparently your not just talking about income tax because you also say, " Ummm, there are too many taxes to list, but I can tell you Property taxes add up quickly."

    OK, so if that's what you are really trying to say, (that you're counting ALL TAXES as "taxes on your income," whether state, local, payroll, sales property, etc...) then i have a question for you:

    Would you then not agree it's wrong to frame the infamous 47% as people who "pay no tax?" Because THAT's what the right wingers love to do.

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  • maplefish wrote...
    Yo Hayduke
    November 27, 2012 8:42 pm
    Final answer. I pay more income & overall tax than most people pay in a year. Only an envious, jealous, twit would want me to elaborate. Lets just say, I have no problem with the people who have paid into the system receiving their " fair share". What I do have a problem with are the people who are milking the system and feel some righteous justification because the idiots on the Left, like the Obama Zombies have been lead to believe are owed something, simply because people like me have worked our assess off to become successful and the lazy, Obama 53% can't take care of themselves. So how's that for clarification? Piss off & Merry Christmas from Sun Valley. :)
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  • maplefish wrote...
    BTW Hayduke
    November 27, 2012 8:58 pm
    A tax is a tax? Anything that the government takes from me, my family and my well being is a tax. Perhaps you need to take your hipster liberal thought process up a notch and think about how you might feel if your government was taking half your money, pissing most of it away and telling you that's not enough? Maybe someday, if your lucky enough, you'll have enough money to worry or be pissed about loser and greedy, envious people trying o take from you what you have rightfully, legally earned. I am sick of it. Obama is not the guy you think he is. He is a divisive, egocentric, megalomaniac, socialist who despises anyone who has achieved wealth. And you are too stupid to realize you have fallen for his class warfare rhetoric. How 'bout you tell me how much YOU pay in taxes? Then we'll continue this pathetic exchange.....
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @Maplefish
    November 28, 2012 6:29 am
    "And you are too stupid to realize you have fallen for his class warfare rhetoric." ---- and if you want to think about it (and you won't), then you'd realize that you've falling for the right wing / Republican line of 'anything Obama calls "a balanced approach" is absolutely class warfare against the rich'. I won't resort to say foolish and hurtful things like 'you are too stupid to realize'. I'll leave that to you right wingers who appear to be idealogues.
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @maplefish
    November 28, 2012 6:26 am
    Don't tell me you're going to drop into the territory of insulting people (your 'piss off' comment) just because you don't want to answer a simple question? Let us know what % you pay in income tax vs. other taxes so that we're on the same page. I'll bet it's quite a bit less than the 50% because you're including every tax you pay aren't you?
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  • CH wrote...
    Grover Norquist vowed to drive Republicans out of office if they didn't pledge to oppose tax increases . . . .
    November 28, 2012 4:34 pm
    I knew the GOP had a middle finger - hope Grover bends over and takes its like a man.
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  • longwayhome wrote...
    Another fat, balding republican
    November 28, 2012 6:49 pm
    That has no sense of what the American people really want. Honest leadership! That certainly won't come from the right side of the menu, not for a long, long time.
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  • cigarfan wrote...
    @maplefish
    November 28, 2012 8:13 pm
    For the record, Bill Clinton was Acquitted by the Senate. It takes Both houses to impeach, thus, no cigar.
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