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In response, the newspaper has now hired armed guards to protect its building and people in West Nyack, New York. (AP Photo/File)

Newspaper decrying guns uses armed guard to protect itself

BY Chris Sullivan  on January 2, 2013 @ 6:40 am (Updated: 10:15 am - 1/2/13 )

Remember that New York newspaper that created controversy shortly after the Newtown, Connecticut, massacre by publishing the names and addresses of legal gun owners? It appears to be OK with guns after all.

The Journal News listed thousands of names and home addresses of gun owners in Westchester and Rockland Counties shortly after the mass shooting, and the paper is in the process of compiling a more expanded list that includes gun owners in Putnam County. The list would include nearly 44,000 names.

The paper has received threats since it posted the original list. Some critics then posted the names, home addresses and other personal information of the paper's reporters and editors.

In response, the paper has now hired armed guards to protect its building and people in West Nyack, New York.

The Journal News main competitor, the Rockland County Times is making some hay with this one. "Guns are good for the goose but not for the gander," Dylan Skriloff, the Times' associate publisher & editor-in-chief wrote.

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  • Concerned US Citizen wrote...
    Liberals
    January 2, 2013 6:32 am
    Don't you just love liberals. NOT! All these Hollywood stars who make money on on the violent shooting movies are backing gun control when their movies do nothing but promote gun violence!!
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  • imanegro wrote...
    Liberals
    January 2, 2013 7:04 am
    From the front page of the Drudge report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxRlpRcorEU NSFW. Hypocrites!!
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @Imanegro...
    January 2, 2013 7:29 am
    the Drudge report. yeah - there's an unbiased group... NOT
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  • imanegro wrote...
    Former
    January 2, 2013 7:49 am
    Couple things. First, Drudge is not a "group." It's 2 guys. Second, 99.99% of the links to Drudge are to other news links. So if you detect any bias, it's from those news agencies rather than Drudge. Third is actually a couple questions: Is it "bias" when both sides of an issue are presented? How many conservative pukes does MSNBC have on their 'news' shows?
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  • Cigarillo wrote...
    @Sarge
    January 2, 2013 9:01 am
    Calling "bias" on a news outlet is like thinking you're the one to discover professional wrestling is fake. It stopped being a revelation when you started growing a whispy mustache.
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  • Drool wrote...
    "The paper has received threats"
    January 2, 2013 7:23 am
    Yeah, I'm sure the threats all came from "Hollywood elites".
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    It's sooo sad...
    January 2, 2013 7:33 am
    When right wingers pitch a fit about liberals then retaliate against 'those who oppose them' like the clowns making threats against them... You want to call them irresponsible flaming morons WHILE your kind are threatening thier lives for using thier 1st amendment rights... It's amazing how far folks will go to push thier agenda - and that INCLUDES these right wing nutters as well...
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  • Molechaser wrote...
    What if...
    January 2, 2013 7:40 am
    What if the paper had posted the names of all Muslims in those NY counties? It is hypocritical of them to push their private agenda against guns and then hire ARMED guards against perceived "threats" that the police have determined are non-existent or nothing to worry about.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Molechaser
    January 2, 2013 8:13 am
    But they didn't publish the name of ALL Muslims in those counties. Heres a question for you numnuts,What if a Comet hit the earth at 12pm today? What if Peyton Manning said he wanted to sign with the Sea Hawks? What if the members of the Tea Party announced they were actually agents for Al Qaeda? What if Grover Norquist announced he was the Koch Brothers LOVE SLAVE? What if Sean Hannity announced he worked as a towel boy in a gay bath house ?What if Rush Limbaugh announced he was a secret agent for the Democratic Party.
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  • Cigarillo wrote...
    @Messiah
    January 2, 2013 10:16 am
    A comet COULD hit the earth at 12:00. What's so hard to believe about that?
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  • Forrest wrote...
    Wrong Cigarillo
    January 2, 2013 11:26 am
    Comets leave a trial as they approach the sun. We would know if a comet was coming. Now an asteroid on the other hand...
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  • Cigarillo wrote...
    @Forrest
    January 2, 2013 12:11 pm
    We wouldn't know about it as George Soros would pay for the necessary hush-hush. If society survives, a cabal of scientists, would establish the belief that the comet was in actuality a large chunk of man-made carbon that had solidified some how, and dropped to earth. Al Gore would get another sweet movie deal, bask in some limelight and set himself up for another Climate Exchange windfall. But I veer off topic...what was the topic? Something about Hannity mopping up after Norquist??
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  • TwoTrees wrote...
    Armed guards?
    January 2, 2013 7:45 am
    The newspaper should just put up 'Gun Free Zone' signs. That'll do the trick!
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  • imanegro wrote...
    ha
    January 2, 2013 7:49 am
    Great comment, TwoTrees.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    imanegro, Get me up to speed
    January 2, 2013 8:00 am
    What exactly was "great" about Two trees comment?
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  • imanegro wrote...
    messiah101
    January 2, 2013 8:50 am
    Sure. That comment illustrates liberal foolishness. Putting up 'Gun Free Zone' signs is nothing more than feel-good tripe. For example, there are "Gun-Free Zone" signs at Sandy Hook and they did not work. For this newspaper to 'attack' legal gun-owners by making their names and addresses available on the Internet is nothing more than agenda-driven hypocrisy and reeks of brown-shirt tactics. TwoTrees points this out succinctly, and that makes his/her comment "great."
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  • NW observer wrote...
    Publishing gun owners names
    January 2, 2013 7:45 am
    It's hard to imagine what the paper hoped to accomplish by publishing names, other than to create publicity for themselves. It will have no effect on gun crime, school shootings or anything else,except to help increase gun sales. What a stupid and useless idea.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Not 1 (ONE) Condemnation from our pinhead Rightys
    January 2, 2013 7:59 am
    About these threats.Seems like you folks feel the Freedom of Speech amendment is trumped by your Right to carry (and threaten) with your precious guns.
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  • flipper wrote...
    Here's a condemnation
    January 2, 2013 8:20 am
    Two wrongs don't make a right. However, if these twits in the news industry are going to make being a gun owner like being a john who's frequented a prostitute, then I should be able to treat the real prostitutes (the news organizations) like johns as well. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    I for 1 would like to know if my neighbor has a gun
    January 2, 2013 9:46 am
    I feel its within my rights to know if its in my neighbors RIGHTS to own a gun.If I observed he was a person who used poor judgement he'd be called on his gun ownership
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  • flipper wrote...
    I've seen a picture...
    January 2, 2013 10:12 am
    ...of one of the outed gun owners who has put a sign on his lawn saying to the effect that "I have a gun, they guy next door doesn't." Plenty of houses have signs on them saying "protected by Smith and Wesson". Bottom line is 99.99% of gun owners use good judgement. There's still more deaths by use of a car than there are by use of a gun. Do you also support observing a person using poor judgement with a car (Improper lane change, Improper stop to make a right on red, etc) being reported?
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  • po_guy wrote...
    He does have the right
    January 2, 2013 11:30 am
    to own a gun, and I suppose you are so BAD you would be the one to CALL him on it...tee hee hee
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  • po_guy wrote...
    If you "observed" his poor judgement
    January 2, 2013 11:32 am
    Perhaps you would be better off staying out of sight...
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  • Cigarillo wrote...
    @Messiah
    January 2, 2013 11:53 am
    I'd like to know if my neighbor is heeled also, so I could go over and gawk at his stuff and show off mine. We could probably bond over huffing Hoppe's #9, and maybe join him in pointing and laughing and any self-righteous, self-appointed neighborhood moral compasses "calling" him on his gun ownership.
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  • Handi wrote...
    neighbor
    January 2, 2013 1:15 pm
    They have guns as do the ones next to them. Why advertise just take it for granted.
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  • Paul Kersey wrote...
    I could be your neighbor messedup
    January 2, 2013 3:00 pm
    and in the bowels of your underdeveloped mind you would most likely think I use bad judgement. So just ponder this... which neighbor am I? Probably the one who had a Romney sign in the yard a couple of months ago. That's pretty bad judgement, especially in your neighborhood.

    Here' what you should do messy....confront this (maybe me) right wing psycho. Call him on his (my) poor judgement and explain to him (could be me) how you feel about his exercising his second amendment.

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  • Cigarillo wrote...
    @Messiah
    January 2, 2013 10:11 am
    Apparently, the threats are a non-issue - there have been none. Could it be that the Journal News is milking this for a bit more publicity? I had my doubts on the rough stuff to begin with. It's the lefties that loot, assault, rape and murder over political issues. Rightys sort their recycling, pick up the trash and go home.
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  • po_guy wrote...
    Well now...
    January 2, 2013 11:29 am
    Where in the story did it say that the gun owners had made the threats???? Maybe I failed to see the invisible ink... "The paper has received threats since it posted the original list. Some critics then posted the names, home addresses and other personal information of the paper's reporters and editors. "
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  • AceBass wrote...
    My opinion
    January 2, 2013 9:02 am
    Two things are immediately accomplished by listing the names of households where guns are kept. 1) Criminals know what homes are armed and they avoid breaking into those homes so they don't get shot. and/or 2) criminals know what homes have guns in them and target those homes for break in when it is proven that the home owners are not at home (work or vacation etc etc). Either way its like publishing the names and addresses of corrections officers, law enforcement officers or judges so retribution can be taken out on them. Its also akin to publishing the addresses of private homes with valuables of gold and diamond jewelry. It is vindictive and damaging on all accounts.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    AceBass
    January 2, 2013 9:55 am
    So you would be against police officers taking police cars home (as many PDs allow) because it would be advertising that a gun was in that home.My guess is that it would be easy for a thief to follow a shooter home from the local target range and come back later and steal your guns
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  • Cigarillo wrote...
    @Ace
    January 2, 2013 10:13 am
    Well said. Nail on the head. Just because they have the right to publish this information, doesn't make it the responsible thing to do.
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  • DesertRez wrote...
    Here is the thread
    January 2, 2013 8:55 am
    Straight from the article:

    McBride had filed at least two reports with the Clarkstown Police Department due to perceived threats. However, the police did not find the communications in question actually threatening. Incident-Report 2012-00033099 describes McBride telling police she was worried because an email writer wondered “what McBride would get in her mail now.” Police said the email “did not constitute an offense” and did not contain an actual threat.

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  • xplanes wrote...
    The should hire armed guards..
    January 2, 2013 10:09 am
    To keep those guns that are legally owned and locked in a safe from being stolen. I sure hope when someone on that map gets robbed they sue the paper for damages. I hope when those stole guns are used in a crime and someone gets killed those editors do time for aiding and abetting. You see, those legally owned guns are now more likely to be found at a crime scene, not less likely.
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  • Molechaser wrote...
    Messiah0...
    January 2, 2013 10:17 am
    All of those things would certainly be published by that paper (even if not true)...but they would never publish anything against their protected groups...especially a group that they might fear because of the type of retribution that might really come their way.
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  • xplanes wrote...
    Yeah, I dare them...
    January 2, 2013 10:49 am
    to publish a cartoon mocking Mohammad. Newspapers don't need to fear insulting or assaulting Christians or legal gun owners. It's those other groups that like to burn down buildings and put a price on people's heads. http://www.radicalislam.org/news/saudi-cleric-issues-fatwa-allowing-gang-rape-syrian-women
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