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Privatizing liquor sales in Washington state hasn't brought prices down, as some had hoped. Instead, average liquor prices are up 10 percent since a year ago. (AP Photo/file)

Privatizing liquor sales hasn't brought price down

EVERETT, Wash. (AP) - Privatizing liquor sales in Washington state hasn't brought prices down, as some had hoped. Instead, average liquor prices are up 10 percent since a year ago.

The cost of liquor in Washington went up six months ago, right after the changeover, and has mostly stayed that way, The Daily Herald reported Monday.

The average statewide price per liter of hard liquor after taxes was $24.06 in October, according to the state Department of Revenue.

That's slightly less than the average price in June, right after privatization. But it's still 10 percent higher than the average of $21.59 at state liquor stores in October 2011.

Backers of Initiative-1183 had steered clear of claiming the plan would lower prices. But they did mention reductions as a potential benefit because of increased competition.

"It's gone up quite a bit," said Trudy Brodie, of Edmonds, who manages the bar at the North City Eagles Club in Shoreline. "We had to raise prices."

The ballot measure was designed to keep state and local governments from losing money in the transition.

The state's previous spirits sales tax and liter taxes stayed in place. The state's 51.9 percent mark-up went away but was replaced by fees of 10 percent on distributors and 17 percent on retailers.

"The private sector is adding its own markup as well," said Brian Smith, a spokesman for the state Liquor Control Board.

The fee charged to distributors is scheduled to be cut in half in 2014, to 5 percent, which could help bring prices down, Smith said.

Some prices at smaller stores are higher than those at large chain stores because small retailers can't get bulk discounts from distributors, said Leonard Daniel, who owns and operates Mountlake Terrace Liquor & Wine with his wife, Lori Daniel.

Also, each brand is often available from only one distributor, Leonard Daniel said. The right to distribute a brand is bought by the highest bidder.

"There's no competition until you get down to this level and we're just fighting for the crumbs," he said.

Leonard and Lori Daniel say they make up for their disadvantages with customer service and product knowledge, and by carrying a wider variety of brands and sizes than many of the bigger stores.

Brodie said she buys directly from distributors as well but goes to the Mountlake Terrace store to get items that aren't available from distributors.

"They're pretty good to me and they're local," she said of the Daniels.

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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    The flaw in the whole proposal was failure to de-regulate wholesalers
    The new liquor law makes it almost impossible for a new wholesaler to come in and compete with the couple of major wholesalers in the state.

    Increased competition among the retailers has simply resulted in higher profits for wholesalers. When the state was the only buyer in sight for hard liquor, the wholesalers had to come to an agreement with the state buyer or their liquor wouldn't be sold here. Now, if a wholesaler runs into price resistance, the wholesaler can simply threaten to pull the product from Brand X Market and sell it only at Brand Y instead. The retailers step up so they won't be standing there without some of the most popular brands.

    To really get to a "free market" system, every level of distribution has to be deregulated, not just retail. When a retailer thinks he is being held up by a wholesaler, the retailer needs to be able to say, "Sorry, that price is too high. We're going to buy that brand from Lowball Hooch Wholesale instead."

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  • Ted Bundi wrote...
    Chuck, this is what I thought would happen when I voted for this.
    I thought the retailers would have a choice to source the goods...
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  • soo purletiv wrote...
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    What he said! :-)
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  • Forrest wrote...
    Yeah but...
    It's more convenient, uses less fuel as you can buy at grocery store rather than separate trip to strip mall, and we are not paying a whole bunch of benefits and wages in the state budget for the additional state workers.
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  • HPD 5-0 wrote...
    It's because the State of WA
    could not control it's addiction to MONEY and charges an exhorbitant tax!!!! I know; shocking. Taxes...the crack of the left.
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @hpd 5-0
    Umm, you really need to do your research there 5-0. The state isn't the one who set the taxes/fees regarding liquor sales. WE DID when we passed the initiative. The taxes/fees were built into the initiative. So instead of blindly blaming 'government', blame the actual culprit - YOU and I.
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  • Snout wrote...
    If you're buying so much booze
    that a couple bucks per bottle is killing your budget then perhaps you should see that rehab place that is hawked by that perpetually slurring Pat O'Day. Please, it s a minor difference and the convenience of picking up some redeye at the Safeway more than makes up for having to go to the government store staffed by surly employees in cheap polyester blue vests.
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    Snout, Pat's much better since that brain tumer was removed a few months ago.
    So, let's not slam effective addiction treatment. (Unless you think he's talking to you).
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  • Snout wrote...
    If what you posted is correct
    then my foot does not taste very good.
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  • Alex Mason wrote...
    It has gotten the Peoples State Republic out of the liquor business.
    And about time.
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  • dori monson fan wrote...
    yes it has
    WAY WAY down. go to costco. 1.5L of quality kirkland signature brand vodka for $24 INCLUDING sales tax. that is HALF PRICE of what it cost compared to before privatization. plus we are no longer paying for all the expensive retail space, inflated wages, and benies to unskilled state employees.
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  • JohnQEveryman wrote...
    whaa?
    Sure, if you want to buy that swill. Go to Texas or California and see how much they're paying for that same product... it's nearly 1/2 as much. When you start talking about other products, the variance is even more dramatic. One thing that has me baffled is how vodka seems to be priced far higher than other spirits; I can see the higher price on IMPORTED vodka, but stuff that's made in the US is being priced the same as stuff coming from Poland, Russia and Sweden. I don't know if people are taking note (compare prices to rum), but I am and I don't approve.
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  • CH wrote...
    dori monson fan - kirkland signature brand vodka . . . .
    you cheap son of a beach. Bet you water it down. 50%?
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  • murr wrote...
    Sure started thinning goverment workers, and their inflated pay and bennies.
    YES I said it, it cant stop soon enough. I know they found them other cush jobs, one at a time. How does debt. start ??? penny at a time.
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  • JohnQEveryman wrote...
    Prices are fine...
    It's the taxation that's the issue. Free market capitalism can't effectively work when there is crippling taxation. 20.5%? Fine; I'm OK with paying a bit more tax than I would on other items, but the 'liter' tax is a slap in the face and can drive up the tax rate on some items to over 50%. At most, we were taxed at 33% at state stores, so for now, it seems like Costco and state legislators colluded to screw the taxpayer over. The ONLY saving grace is the liter tax is supposed to go away once a certain amount is paid into that fund. We'll see if that actually happens, though.
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  • soo purletiv wrote...
    @ AP STATE
    You act like you are breaking news or something here.

    Those who followed this bill from start to finish were well aware of the initial cost and future rewards.

    Quit making it sound like no one knew this was going to happen and this is an unexpected by-product of the bill.

    If the cost does not go down in a few years, then I would hope you would criticise this, since that is what you are SUPPOSED to do. Making this an issue at this juncture..... not so much...

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