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NRA: Obama hypocrite on security for kids

Check out this new ad from the NRA. What do you think? Do they have a point?

My first reaction: I don't find it overly effective. I think it makes a partial point, but by over playing it's hand, it diminishes its effectiveness and seems like just more noise on the subject. I like the fact it brings up the point at how armed security is good for some but not for we the riff-raff, there's just something bland about this one that's not doing it for me. Anyway, let me know what you think...


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  • ron prevost wrote...
    Later today, The Wizard of Oz with show us his magical plan to eliminate gun violensce in America - Constitutional or not - via 'executive order'
    AND, he'll use kids as a back drop, just so we all know it's 'for the kids'. ..... Remember, no matter what, that GUNS are the problem. Never people. Clips and 'assault' weapons will be the first targets. Never mind that a Colt revolver or a Winchester repeater rifle would seem 'assault' weapons to the 18th century owner of a musket. Never mind that - like designer drugs - new and different inventions will always be found to circumvent any law. ... And never mind that the crazy of most od the world kill far more each year (and most attacks) WITHOUT guns - bombs work just fine, thank you.

    And never mind that the founding fathers inserted that 'Bill of Rights' into the Constitution specifically because in time of troubles EVERYTHING therein would be a target of government to restrict or eliminate in the name of security. ... Everything. ... Religion. ... Assembly ... Speech ... the Press.

    No, we will not wake up tomorrow under a dictatorship. But every day we loose a few more freedoms. And is this for true - or false - security?

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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    Ron, poor Ron....
    You couldn't be more clueless. Not once has Obama blamed the gun. Nor has any serious person that is worried about violence commited with guns. We folks who actually use our brains to think with know that a gun by itself is no more capable of harming someone than a picture hanging on the wall. The problem is when people interact with (or fail to interact with) guns. We want common sense discussions about ALL contributing factors that are part of gun violence. 1 + 1 = 2 (people + guns = potential for violence) to everyone on this issue except for the gun zealots. Gun zealots want to make us think that we want math like this: 0 + 1 = 2 (guns by themselves = violence). We aren't selling that kind of math. Neither is the President. And lo and behold - he didn't propose ANYTHING that didn't take into account ALL of the issues involved.
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  • Drool wrote...
    More Noise with No Substance
    It is an unfortunate fact but the President's kids are potential targets way over and above your average school kid. I presume the NRA wants all commercial airliners to have missile defense systems on them because Air Force One has them.

    Hypocrites? The Republican National Convention was a gun free zone.

    The NRA is just proving that they have jumped the shark and demonstrating why I quit several years ago. It is harder to get a truck load of fertilizer without scrutiny than enough weapons to arm a platoon.

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  • rational wrote...
    Drool
    It is an unfortunate fact but the President's kids are potential targets way over and above your average school kid.

    Going to have to call your bs on this one. Zero presidents kids have been killed in schools...regular folks kids have been killed in schools...so your fighting against the actual statistical facts.

    Obama is a hypocrite if he won't allow the same level of protection for the prolotariat kids as his bourgeoisie class kids. Guess he's still working on establishing that marxist america he wants and we should just learn to accept it.

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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @rational
    I see that you and many others are still comparing apples to oranges.... The President's family is in far, far greater danger than your family or mine simply because the President has control of much of what happens in this country. you and I don't. If the President's children weren't protected so carefully, the President would be at risk of being blackmailed, controlled, 'revenged against' by anyone with a grudge against him or America. Anyone with at least the intelligence of a MORON can see the difference between 'joe average's kids' and 'the President's family'. Unfortunately there are a lot of people out there that apparently can't tell the difference. And oh, by the way, the President DID include that the feds should help with any school district that wants more 'resource officers' (aka armed guards), so there's even more proof that he's not the 'hypocrite' for you folks who can't tell the difference between the risks to 'joe average's kids' and the President's family...
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  • rational wrote...
    FormerMarineSgt
    Here is what you can't seem to grasp...I'm not calling for the president's children to be protected less...but democrats ARE calling for our children to be protected less.

    Wanting some kids protected and others not is a part of the democrat war on children. Why do you progressives hate children so much? Isn't it enough that you're piling up over $100k in debt for each of them so you can live a wreckless lifestyle? Do you also insist on them being at greater risk of violence as well?

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  • Drool wrote...
    That is False
    The President has never said he is against having added security in schools.
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  • Paul Kersey wrote...
    Obviously Barry hates your children
    look at the debt he is piling on their shoulders. His family will never cut back on their extravagant lifestyle so that others can merely have a lifestyle.
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  • SeattleD wrote...
    10,000 schools times $100,000 years to pay armed guards
    Equals ONE BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR! Pony up the funds NRA, we can start tomorrow.
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  • rational wrote...
    SeattleD
    Pony up the funds NRA

    That's a moronic demand...not that moronic demands from progressives is any shock. So the NRA tries to protect Americans from the democrats taking away constitutional rights and so they must pay a billion dollars as well?!

    I have one gun control suggestion...why don't we disarm all progressives and folks who voted for Obama? I bet you'd get rid of at least 80% of gun related deaths.

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  • cdbtx wrote...
    I'll actually agree with Drool
    for once... The ad is absurd... The President and his family are always considered at risk... and as a country we owe them the protection.. I certainly can't image having or wanting to have Secret Service Agents around for the rest of my life..
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  • rational wrote...
    cdbtx
    You're missing the point. Why should ONLY Obama's kids be protected from school shooters? That's where Obama's hypocrisy is...he's not willing to let our children be as protected as his. Put down the koolaid and think.

    If having armed guards at schools is a bad idea why are there guards at the school Obama's kids attend? Aren't they at higher risk from the guards? One must conclude so given all the tripe the left has been spewing.

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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @rational
    Umm, did you blindly ignore that the Prez said that the Feds should help with funding for schools that want more resource officers (aka cops in schools)? Clearly you did because that is part of his plan. But I guess facts don't matter to those who just want to spew hate against 'that guy'...
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  • rational wrote...
    FormerMarineSgt
    But I guess facts don't matter to those who just want to spew hate against 'that guy'...

    Nice try... I don't hate anyone. I didn't even hate Bin Laden...he was blinded by his hate. That doesn't mean he didn't deserve to die, of course. But the left projects their hate onto others and accuses others of their own "sins". Progressives are racists and haters so they accuse others of what they are.

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  • Drool wrote...
    Obama's Kids
    Have a Secret Service detail. You think they shouldn't?
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  • Ron_Spins wrote...
    Gun free zone
    A gun free zone is a magical thinking zone.A Teacher (or teachers)could easily be equipped with a hidden gun.In special places a (gasp) AR-15 could be used , using smart technology "a special ring or an R.F.I.D solution" for a long time now school's have been a target of nut's wrath.The argument that having a solution to school shootings would turn a school into a "armed camp" is pure hyperbole. If someone saw me on the street they would not know I was armed , but I am. Also have "Adults" STOP bullying some kids will arm themselves to take out bully's.Stopping bully's is key.
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  • It's me! Ha ha! wrote...
    Seattle DBAG!
    I just heard this, Your Dear Leader Obama is not worried about American children having ANY protection from crazy people!So your Dear Leader must hate American children.
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  • It's me! Ha ha! wrote...
    Well, how about it Dbag?
    Gonna respond yourself or use one of your multiple COCK PUPPETS here on the boards?
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  • William Lawn wrote...
    Lord ha ha!
    I hate AJ so much that I'm going to start posting as him.

    FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!FLOUNDER! FLOUNDER!

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  • SeattleD wrote...
    I'm pretty sure
    you're the only cock puppet on this blog.

    Actually you'd be more of a pee pee puppet. A really teeny weenie pee pee puppet.

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  • William Lawn wrote...
    @flounderseattleD
    Stop posting as me! Everyone thinks that they can just tap into my brain and tell me what to type!

    Stop it!

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  • SeattleD wrote...
    You're not fooling anyone AJ
    Get a new joke.
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  • William Lawn wrote...
    SeattleD
    Oh yes, I am AJ MCCARRELL! Do you hear me? I am AJ MCCARRELL! Please believe me! I am AJ MCCARRELL posting as William Lawn, oh yes I am!
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  • William Lawn wrote...
    Stop it AJ McFlounder!
    You aren't fooling anyone, get a new joke!

    He's copying me!

    Aaaayayayaaa!

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  • sambra27 wrote...
    Wow
    I'm sure Dave Boze is bursting with pride when he posts a topic meant to promote an open dialogue RELATED to the subject matter he posts, and the results are the comments displayed above...
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  • SeattleD wrote...
    You
    are obviously new here.
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  • rational wrote...
    You are obviously new here
    In this matter...well said.
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  • sambra27 wrote...
    not quite new
    I've seen it before and it's not surprising, but I think Lawn took it to a new level there. That being said, I do find it funny.
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  • FormerMarineSgt wrote...
    @sambra
    you're funny Sambra... Boze rarely just posts something for open discussion. whatever he posts is nearly always twisted out of factal status into some far right extremist rant for like minded people to slather him with comments supporting his point of view. People who dare confront it from another point of view are shouted down regularly, and then a small group of posters get into pissing matches at each other, degrading the conversation into crap. Just like this time around.
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  • sambra27 wrote...
    FMS

    Boze is conservative, yes. I have never however seen HIM shoot down anyones point of view on the left...that's more AJ, Law, Kersey, Ha Ha, etc.

    However, you are wrong on your statement regarding this particular thread. Boze begins with a prompt for discussion, then goes on to add his opinion that the add is bland and not overly effective.
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  • maplefish wrote...
    FMS
    And you participate in the "shouting down of other people view point and degrading the conversation into crap" like a true liberal hypocrite.
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  • Drool wrote...
    And By The Way
    It turns out the ONLY armed security at the school the Obama kids attend is the Secret Service detail that is required to escort the First Family. The school has NO armed security is spite of what the right wing blowhards are saying.
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