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Updated Oct 22, 2011 - 9:01 am

Let there be jobs!

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Listen to Dave Ross Commentary: Let there be jobs!

Good news for the wealthy classes who might have worried that the recession would throw the country into the arms of French-style socialism...

New wage statistics just in for 2010 show that what's called the mean income, which accounts for the actual number of people making a certain wage, has half of Americans making less than $26,000 last year.

And the percentage of Americans earning less than $200,000 a year remains at...guess where? 99 percent.

So good news for the anti-Wall Street crowd -- they can keep the chant...

But it's even BETTER news for the people we now call the Job Creators. Job Creators have worried that if the 99 percent were to start joining unions it might boost their wages, making it harder for the Job Creators to create all the jobs they want to create. Well, rest easy, the new numbers show that in 2010, the bottom 99 percent saw their wages DROP by a total of $4.5 billion.

While at the same time, the Job Creators in the 1 percent, presumably through the creation of jobs, saw THEIR total earnings rise by $120 billion. In fact, those in the upper fraction of the 1 percent, the uber-Job Creators earning at least $1 million a year, saw their payroll income rise of 22 percent.

The economy also created MORE job creators -- the number of people in the top 1 percent rose by about 300,000.

So like Herman Cain said, you folks in the lower 99 percent need to quit complaining and get a job. My advice would be to get a job as a Job Creator. It pays really well!

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  • HPD 5-0 wrote...
    Jobs.
    October 22, 2011 8:34 am
    Dave, of course you realize their are no new jobs because your President, Owebama, is so, utterly anti-business, don't you?
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  • Bill Law wrote...
    What do you wanna bet
    October 22, 2011 11:13 am
    That woman can't even read the sign she's holding?
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  • rational wrote...
    My advice would be to get a job as a Job Creator. It pays really well!
    October 22, 2011 12:58 pm
    Excellent advise!

    The rest of your prattle about the decrease in quality of life is just the results of progressive policies. It seems silly to promote the progressive agenda and then complain about the results of what you have advocated.

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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    But rational.....I thought you guys always claim the "progressive agenda" is to steal from the rich and give to the poor.......
    October 22, 2011 3:57 pm
    so is it the "progressive agenda" in action when the (mean) average person in the United States barely earns $500 per week?

    Is it progressive agenda that permits wages for nearly all workers to drop by $4.5-billion, while the incomes of the top 1% rose by $120-billion in the same period?

    Looks to me like the transfer of wealth is going from the lower income folks *to* the upper income, not the other way around?

    But maybe you're saying that the "progressive agenda" has prevented the earnings of the bottom 99% from dropping by $20-billion instead of $4.5-billion. Maybe the "progressive agenda" limited the increase for the top 1% to a mere $120-billion, instead of $400-billion? If that's indeed what you meant, then maybe it's true- we're seeing "the progressive agenda" at work.

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  • rational wrote...
    Chuck Gould
    October 23, 2011 12:08 am
    The progressive agenda is to gain power for their elites and remove it from anyone else. The chosen method is to divide off special interest groups and develop a sense of grievance and entitlement to use them as ground troops. If you haven't noticed, not a single one of the democrat leaders is poor, and where they did start poor they have used their positions to gain money along the way.

    Interestingly, one of the big lies progressives try to push is one you're using...that wealth is a zero sum game. In the progressive world there is a fixed amount of wealth, and if one groups gains wealth others suffer. this ignores reality, but people buy the big lie, however.

    Let me ask you this, if the "poor" gained say 10% in income while at the same time the "rich" gained 15% you would decry the gain the poor had even though their lot improved, now wouldn't you? In fact, if both the poor and the rich gained 10% you'd still complain because 10% for the rich is more than 10% for the poor...so again, even though the poor gained you would denounce the gains.

    Face the facts, the only way you're going to be happy is not if the lot of the poor is improved, you will only be happy if the lot of the rich is made worse. You are only interested in creating more unhappiness, not increasing happiness. That is part of the progressive agenda.

    It's been pointed out, you don't make people rich by making more people poor...but sharing misery is a core of progressivism. You won't be satisfied until you've eliminated all the rich and made everyone poor. The poor can be played upon to stoke up their grievances, and the more poor the better for the progressives.

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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Rational and the claim that "wealth is not a zero sum game"......
    October 23, 2011 4:49 am
    Huh???

    Get out of that theoretical cloud and consider the evidence please.

    Obviously wealth is *not* a zero sum game. The aggregate income for the 99% only dropped by $4.5-billion, while it increased $120-billion for the top 1%. If wealth were truly a zero-sum game, then the income of the 99% would have had to drop by the same $120-billion that it went *up* for the 1%, not a measly $4.5-billion.

    The ridiculous crapola spewed from some quarters "The rich are taking such a beating under Obama that they just refuse to create any jobs! Why would they? Just to see all the profits taxed away by this socialist?" just doesn't stand up.

    The rich are doing much better than everybody else. That's no surprise, it's the normal way of the world. However, it hardly establishes that the "progressive agenda" is responsible for a decrease in wages and a walloping increase in corporate profits and dividends.

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  • rational wrote...
    Chuck Gould
    October 23, 2011 8:48 am
    Well, you're ahead of most progressives in that you realize it's not a zero sum game, despite the progressive propaganda suggsting otherwise.

    Your second paragraph is just a straw man argument...they sure grow tiresome. I haven't seen a single person argue that business aren't creating jobs because they are "taking a beating"...they aren't creating jobs because Obama and his administration has made it absolutely clear that they are anti-business. I'll explain it yet again, businesses plan ahead and in doing so they take risk into account. Businesses see a high risk that the Obama admin will hit them with more taxes and regulations and they are unwilling to risk investments until they can be confident they are not too likely to lose them. On the other hand you have Obama picking and choosing which buisnesses live and die, you have an out of control EPA, you have unelected and unaccountable tzars making up rules and Obama making up executive orders (and yes, the progressive Bush signed executive orders as well). Bottom line, if you want to boost job growth you remove the barriers to business creating jobs. Until Obama is willing to do that, and business believes he's willing to do that, then you're not going to have growth.

    And yes, of course the rich are doing better, they have better resources to protect themselves from a rapacious government.

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  • CH wrote...
    so the questions is are the tea party(republican leaders) . . . . .
    October 22, 2011 8:49 pm
    going to sit on their hands until nov.2012 and fold the country or try to help their president create jobs? i would think the former.
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  • rational wrote...
    CH
    October 22, 2011 11:59 pm
    have you noticed that the only position that has bi-partisan support is against Obama's "job" plan?

    His job plan isn't really a job plan, it's a get money into the union coffers so they can help him get reelected plan. Why do you think the republicans should vote for special money for unions?

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  • HPD 5-0 wrote...
    Why do you think the republicans should vote for special money for unions?
    October 23, 2011 6:14 am
    Cause CH and a few others are hard-core socialists. And they must support their Great Leader (Owebama). To hell w/ what is good for the country long term. THey want the U.S. to be just like Greece.
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  • longwayhome wrote...
    It seems that
    October 22, 2011 9:40 pm
    The republicans are so determined to replace Obama at all costs that they will see to it that nothing is going to happen until he is re-elected, which by the way is GOING to happen if they don't start co-operating with the Democrats. sheesh!
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  • rational wrote...
    longwayhome
    October 23, 2011 12:24 am
    And you haven't noticed that the democrats have defeated Obama's plan in the Senate? Obama can't run on his record, his approvals are in the tank, so the only thing the democrats can do is tie up their own bills and blame the republicans...it's the only ploy left. Obama's strategy has to be to run against the "do nothing" congress. That doesn't actually mean congress is doing nothing, just that their efforts have been thwarted by the democrats...after all, they do have nearly 50% of the congress, full control of the senate and presidency...so the only piece the dems don't control is 1/2 of 1/3 and yet the problems in government have nothing to do with the dems? That's really the narrative you want to sell?
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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Rational and "The Dems ar blocking Obama's legislation!"......have you no shame, or is it a lack of knowledge regarding civics?
    October 23, 2011 4:39 am
    It takes 60 votes to get past the almost automatic Republican filibuster that any Obama proposal will face in the senate.

    These proposals aren't being "defeated by Democrats", they are not even being allowed to be advanced for discussion or amendment.

    I haven't followed every vote to allow discussion and debate of these proposals (without filibuster), but a number of them were about 50-50, almost an exact reflection of party division in the senate.

    And of course the proposals aren't getting the courtesy of a hearing in the Republican controlled house.

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  • rational wrote...
    Chuck Gould
    October 23, 2011 8:32 am
    And of course you've forgotten that for the first 2 years of Obama's term the democrats had a veto proof majority in the senate...but they were far too busy worrying about jaming an unconstitutional Obamacare law and numerous other nasty bits of legislation to worry about the economy...it's so much easier to pass the blame of their own incompetence onto others like a true progressive, never taking responsibility for one's own actions...or inactions.

    And you seem to have not seen where Reid employed the nuclear option to STOP a vote on Obama's "jobs" bill when the republicans tried to force a vote on it. But hey, don't let the facts get in your way of a perfectly good progressive rant.

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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Botton line, Rational, is that every Democrat in the House and Senate.....
    October 23, 2011 9:00 am
    could vote *for* the jobs plan or any aspect thereof and there still would not be enough votes to pass united Republican opposition. So the Dems are not "defeating Obama's jobs bill."

    It must blow some minds, badly, to see two or three Democrats break rank and vote outside the official party line. Who could possibly imagine anybody thinking for him or herself? Much less likely to happen on the red side of the aisle. :-)

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  • AJ McCarrell wrote...
    Chuck
    October 23, 2011 2:35 pm
    Name a single piece of legislation other than this jobs bill that Obama has presented that has died? Other than this one, ostensibly killed with bi-partisan support, is the only one.
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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    mnpat......the conservative agenda has always been
    October 22, 2011 9:51 pm
    that some are more entitled (to the spoils of commerce and the products of another man's labor) than others, but most are not entitled at all. The "free market" (which is based how hungry and desperate a worker can be found, not on the value of a day's skilled labor) will sort it out. Yup.

    It's absolutely true, both sides want the playing field tipped, drastically, in their favor. The right pursues this while lying that there's no attempt to tilt the playing field at all, (but rather maintain its "natural balance". The lie on the left is that it is all in pursuit of righteous justice.

    Liars, all. Basic human weakness. Some of the sheeple believe one lie, some of the sheeple believe the other. Most true believers have been so effectively "sold", they will go the their graves insisting their particular lie is the holy writ, sent down with Moses on a rock.

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  • rational wrote...
    Chuck Gould
    October 23, 2011 12:31 am
    Recently I've been reading some Hayak, which makes excellent sense. It really comes down to the choice between freedom. The free market allows everyone the opportunity to equal sucess, but certainally does not guaranteee success. The socialist "plan" requires taking freedom away from the individual and investing it in arbitrary decision makers. This is less efficient and subject to corruption.

    Most of the problems the Occupiers are complaining about are actually the results of the "planners" manipulating the system, and yet their solution is to call for more planning...which will just increase the problems. The tea party folks, on the other hand, have been calling for less government intervention (the planning, control bit) and calling for more personal responsiblity.

    Obviously it's much more involved than just that, but it really comes down to freedom. The tea party folks are for it, the Occupiers are against it, although I'm sure most don't realize that.

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  • AJ McCarrell wrote...
    Chuck
    October 23, 2011 2:36 pm
    When you can't win an argument, paint a cartoon!
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  • AKAF wrote...
    Oh my
    October 23, 2011 12:29 am
    The President didn't care about job creation in the first two years of his administration. Suddenly it's someone else's problem. Never mind that the job creators have been crying for help...it's the top one percent's fault. Oh my...so good to have a radio gig that enables to spout off and blame others but refusing to give part of your own party part of the blame. We haven't learned from the OWS demonstrations...always blame the other.
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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    AKAF........history has shown....
    October 23, 2011 4:55 am
    that during an eight year span where the *only* interest was in cutting taxes for the rich while increasing government purchases from private corporations and businesses, jobs went into the toilet. The economy was shedding several hundred thousand jobs per month when Bush left office.......[all together now, right wing, "but that was the Democrats fault!"]...after peaking about 2005 and 2006.

    So, we have been there, done that, and "trickle down" is about the same as "trickled on".

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  • rational wrote...
    Chuck Gould
    October 23, 2011 8:24 am
    that during an eight year span where the *only* interest was in cutting taxes for the rich...

    If you're referring to the 8 years under Bush then what you're saying is the 6 yrs of republican congress and the 2 years of democrat congress only were interested in cutting taxes for the rich...is that your contention? You might recall that the "Bush tax cuts" that Obama extended cut taxes for all income categories, not just the rich despite the big lie from the left.

    And if you don't like government purchases from private corporations you can downsize government so they have less money to buy from those private corporations...that would be in line with the tea party folks, however...not sure you could live that down in your progressive circles.

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  • AJ McCarrell wrote...
    Chuck
    October 23, 2011 2:37 pm
    Please cite your statistics year to year under Bush please? You'll find we lost most of the jobs in 2008 when the rest of the world also took a hit. More fallacy from the GREAT thinker Chuck Windbag.
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  • anotherfencewalker wrote...
    What point to be made?
    October 23, 2011 7:26 am
    The ongoing debate is the redistribution of wealth. Its a valid argument. What diffuses much of it at the present time, is that their is much less of that wealth to pass around. And no, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett etal aren't the annual poster child's for the rich. Their riches are but a small small drop in the bucket to solving a much bigger problem. Oh and by the way MNPAT, your comment about radio announcers being paid well: In most radio markets it pays just enough to eat and have a place to get out of the rain. It's one of the most transitional jobs you can be in. Always moving to the next gig. Radio is at the bottom feeders section of the show biz food chain and those in it will be the first to admit to that. Some do OK but most are only a click or two above traffic reporter status and pay scale..Talk show hosts consider the "bad mouth everyone" part of the job as a perk.
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  • AJ McCarrell wrote...
    anotherfencewalker
    October 23, 2011 2:38 pm
    And you get your expertise in radio where exactly?
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  • eddiewhite wrote...
    I wonder if this little fella...
    October 23, 2011 9:55 am
    questions why the company he works for had to hire a co host for him because he's completely incapable of doing his job alone. I dont listen to doofus and doofus, it just seems like a slap in the face and an insult that the people I work for would say, "you suck at your job, we need another idoit"
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