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Supreme OUTRAGE

April 4, 2012 @ 8:44 am (Updated: 8:56 am - 4/4/12 )

Conservatives cannot believe the President would challenge the Supreme Court's authority to overturn Obamacare.

"I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step," said Obama.

That's the court's job! To overturn unconstitutional laws. Is this man ignorant of history? I say we consult a historian -- and not just any historian, I want to consult a conservative historian. Would a reputable president even HINT at challenging the role of the Supreme Court?

"People tend to forget, the Supreme Court and Dred Scott ruled that slavery extended to the whole country, and Lincoln said very specifically, nine people cannot create the law of the land or you have eliminated our freedom as a people," said Newt Gingrich, former speaker, former Presidential candidate, and conservative historian, who even went so far as to tell Bob Schieffer on Face the Nation that judges who issue bonehead decisions should be subpoenaed to testify before Congress.

Bob Schieffer: Would you send the capitol police down to arrest him?

Gingrich: If you had to.

So whatever you think about the President calling out the Supreme Court, I have to say all the Huffington and Puffington going on here strikes me as a little drama-queenish.

When the issues were gay marriage, school prayer, and abortion, conservatives cheerfully trashed the courts, and when it comes to health care, liberals are apparently planning to do the same thing.

All I know is, at some point, no matter what the court does, somebody's going to have to figure out a way to pay for health care.

(IDEA: Let hospitals charge for baggage, legroom, and bland food. CLEARLY constitutional.)

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  • ron prevost wrote...
    Newt only THINKS he is a historian.
    April 4, 2012 8:07 am
    Once again, Dave, you skew the comments to your own views (but, oh, I guess that IS what a commentary is). .. But you do have a point that it all depends of whose ox is being gored. We have a Constitution to provide checks and balances. ..... Granted, Republicans usually chafed at the Warren court, but Democrats have done more than their share. FDR tried to pack the Court - up to 15 members? - when they ruled against a lot of New Deal programs in the 30's. And the American PEOPLE told him 'NO'. On the other hand, when the Supreme Court rules in Favor of the Cherokee Nation in the 1830's, Andrew Jackson simply ignored the Court and still set off nation to Oklahoma on the Trail of Tears. .. FDR learned, but I fear Obama prefers Jacksonian democracy.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Where were the Supremes
    April 4, 2012 8:21 am
    When they threw Japanese-Americans into Concentration Camps during WW2?Would they step in now if a GOP or Dem run government felt that a certain political group was potentially harmful to the USA?If you think thats far fetched its happened before.
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  • Lonestar wrote...
    Unprecedented? Hardly.
    April 4, 2012 8:12 am
    The Supremene Court has been overturning laws since 1803 (Marbury v Madison). Obama, as a former professor of constitutional law at the U of Chicago knows this. Like my term papers in college, Obamacare was cut and pasted together at the night before it was due. It was always sloppy work and the Supreme Court should give it the D- it deserves.
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  • wsualumn wrote...
    Obamacare
    April 4, 2012 8:20 am
    Was created by Newt Gingrich and implemented by Mitt Romney.
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    Newt's wazzu
    April 4, 2012 8:53 am
    Just as unconstitutional in 1989 as it is now. Romney Care was for a STATE program where there may be no state prohibition on mandated purchases. .. BUT, one might well argue that under the due process clause of the 14th Amendment, mandated purchases are ALSO prohibited to the states. Romney Care, itself, may be unconstitutional.
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  • hrlincon wrote...
    Our POTUS should show respect to the court
    April 4, 2012 8:43 am
    Apparently, Dave, you missed the part of the story that cited The President of The United States making these thinly veiled threats to The Supreme Court of The United States and not some random conservative politician or pundit. And, Gingrich was correct. Congress does have oversight power over our courts and no judge or justice has the right to ignore a Congressional subpena.
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  • GrisGuy wrote...
    Conservatives are being consistant
    April 4, 2012 8:53 am
    Dave, You inadvertently pointed out the conservative consistent message. The Federal government is LIMITED in what it can or can not do. Everything else goes to the States. Gay marriage, school prayer and abortion are not innumerated in the Constitution, therefore, the Supreme Court rulings are going beyond their boundaries so conservatives say "Stick to the constitution". When Obama tries to ram an unconstitutional law down the throat of our country the same conservatives say "Stick to the constitution". The liberals of the other hand want to reshape the constitution to whatever makes them happy at that time.
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  • wsualumn wrote...
    Grisguy
    April 4, 2012 8:58 am
    Happy: Paying for others that refuse to buy health insurance. To be honest with you, this sounds more like a Republican plan to me. We can't pay for others, everybody needs to contribute. I actually agree with the plan, but wish it would be a single payer plan.
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    GrisGuy
    April 4, 2012 9:40 am
    You feel the Liberals are the Only ones at fault in attempting to change the US Constitution,thats not at all true. GOP want Term Limits,Capping Spending, Limiting Presidential power,a Balanced Budget Amendment, overturn of Roe v wade and Super Majority for tax increases. Everyone of these idea may sound good to you but everyone requires amending the Constitution. The Right says "Stick to the Constitution" except when they disagree.
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    messing something ?
    April 4, 2012 9:58 am
    There actually IS a process by which we the People can change the Constitution. It is called by AMENDMENT. Most of what you note the GOP 'wants' would be by amendment. Didn't something click when you typed 'balanced budget AMENDMENT' ? .. The Constitution as originally written did not even have the Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments. Without amendments to change the Constitution we would still have slavery and no women would vote. .. But amending the Constitution is not by simply passing unconstitutional legislation, and then attempting to bully the Supreme Court. ..
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    ron p
    April 4, 2012 11:39 am
    Read the post I was responding to Grisguy was footing the blame on the Libs for wanting to reshape the Constitution and stated that Conservatives wanted to stick to the Constitution I gave him examples of how his statement was not in any way accurate,Amending the Constitution is in no way abiding by it in fact some may view amendments as circumventing the Constitution. Now I'll ask you this how on earth can any POTUS "Bully the Supreme court"? They hold the position for life.So they don't need to care what anybody thinks about their opinions and rulings.Contrary to this the President as well as the Hose and Senate that makes up the other two parts of the Government face re-election. So they are the ones that in a way be bullied not the SC
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    ok - my miss read
    April 4, 2012 12:38 pm
    But that is why it is stupid for any president to try to bully the Court. That is what at least a majority of our founding fathers intended. ... I reiterate, however, that presidents do TRY. FDR threatened to dilute the court and Jackson simply stated that 'Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.' ... Obama's mistake has been to treat the Court as irrelevant and/or ridicule its decisions. Watch out, Mr. President. .. As the old song goes, you don't step on Superman's cape.
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  • gb1118 wrote...
    Hey Dave....
    April 4, 2012 8:58 am
    Why don't we hear the same thing from you when it comes to liberals and the Citizens United case? Your silence is deafining.
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  • DesertRez wrote...
    Newt IS a bonehead
    April 4, 2012 10:26 am
    But the arrogance of Obama still surprises me once in a while. Almost as arrogant is Pelosi when asked if Obama care is constitutinal. "Are you serious?"
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  • mnpat wrote...
    "drama-queenish"......?
    April 4, 2012 10:31 am
    Hey, it was your guy who called everyone out.....I'm thinking president "O Guy" has a Napoleon complex or something, definitely cannot handle criticism at all.....your idea "(IDEA: Let hospitals charge for baggage, legroom, and bland food. CLEARLY constitutional.)".....doubtful....how about we try something really new to your president and you Dave....we try getting input from both parties and the private sector instead of backroom deal brokering.....that sure would be a change.
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  • hnuh wrote...
    04-04-2012 Supreme OUTRAGE
    April 4, 2012 10:44 am
    Dave, the truly pathetic part of your diatribe is this: If it is constitutional then it is. If it is not constitutional it is not. Your hard left ideological bigotry leads you to all kinds of untenable positions and only hypocricy and intellectual dishonesty get you out. If the mandate is found constitutional the reversal of the meaning of the commerce clause will remove all real limits from the federal leviathan. This has been a goal of the left since at least 1900. There are three apparent ideological bigots on the court. They will almost certainly vote ideology over constitutional structure. They are pretty certain to find a way to vote in favor of the mandate. The OUTRAGE is that if the leftist bigots succeed and the mandate is upheld the last limit is removed and the fundamental reason we have the constitution is eliminated. We are then truly subjects of the State, rather than citizens. Why the left thinks this is so wonderful I cannot for the life of me imagine. Explain it. Please.
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  • It's me! Ha ha! wrote...
    Outraged? Hardly Dave R.
    April 4, 2012 11:24 am
    We expect NOTHING less out of the Dear Leader in his attempt to take over one sixth of the US economy with ObamaCare.

    Believe me dude when I tell you that you will see just how OUTRAGED we Americans are on the 9th of November.

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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Haha
    April 4, 2012 12:51 pm
    You don't seem to understand that in 2009 health care was 17.3% of the total it had gone up 5.7% from the previous year and this was before Obama Care drew its first breath.Have you and Billy Boy given your change of address notifications to the Post Office yet because I bet you'll be moving out of the country after the Nov elections huh?
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  • It's me! Ha ha! wrote...
    messiah101
    April 4, 2012 11:28 am
    We Americans want these things. Not ObamaCare!
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