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Obama's stand on gay marriage IS NOW FULLY EVOLVED!

May 10, 2012 @ 8:52 am (Updated: 9:22 am - 5/10/12 )

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The president's stand on gay marriage is now fully evolved! After languishing in the primordial ooze for several years, it learned to walk on all fours, and finally stood upright.

And the consensus seems to be this ranks somewhere between the Pope apologizing to Galileo and FDR popularizing the hot dog. But let's remember, he also said he doesn't think this is a federal issue.

"I continue to believe this is an issue that is going to be worked out at the local level," said Obama.

And he doesn't condemn well-meaning people who see it differently.

"Many of them are not coming at it from mean-spirited perspective, a bunch of them are friends of mine."

In short, he was simply expressing a personal belief.

"For me personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm."

It's just your personal belief. We get it. But what we really want to know from our politicians is, how much more freedom are you planning to take away from us? Which is why this debate is so strange. Because this is the one issue that's become controversial because people think it expands freedom too much!

So I'll be curious to see if any other politicians evolve. Like those politicians who consider the government unfit to control health care, but who think it is fit to control consensual human love.

As was pointed out by several commentators, North Carolina is a state that will let you marry your heterosexual first cousin and have kids together, but which prohibits a non-reproductive marriage with your gay cousin.

A position like that is not only not evolved, it's not even Intelligently Designed!

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  • Informed wrote...
    Timing
    May 10, 2012 8:17 am
    Just in time for the election. Use the Hispanics and now the gays. What’s next?
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  • delvin wrote...
    if you are not gay and dying to get married (careful what u wish for) why should you care one way or another?
    May 10, 2012 9:44 am
    I am sick of hearing about this issue effecting a tiny % of people!
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  • Informed wrote...
    Timing
    May 10, 2012 8:20 am
    In time for the election. Use the Hispanics and now the gays. What’s next?
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  • mobeta wrote...
    Evolving, yea right?!?!?! What a bunch of B.S.
    May 10, 2012 8:21 am
    Attack on traditional marriage, isn't that special? Yeah, sure he evolved. This has been his plan the whole time. A 50 year old guy who just evolve? He is such a weak suck. Attack on every thing that made America great, now the tradition of marriage between a man and a woman. Like chopping down a tree one chop at a time, this is all by design to bring our country down. Congrats liberals, you are tearing down basic the fabric of America one step at a time. No wonder I can't stand liberals. Yea, call me a bigot but you lib's are the biggest bigots racist of anyone. That's right you're going after the Church too. Obamamama is going down big time and in the meantime, he will pass laws by executive order like amnesty for illegal aliens and other things under the radar that will kill this country. I hope we can save it before it's too late.
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  • Cbrew wrote...
    Mobeta
    May 10, 2012 8:45 am
    Man, I know you have some seriously angry attitudes towards the President but have you really stopped to think about what you're saying? Look man, I'm a 30 year old Heterosexual Christian Caucasion, I don't approve of the Homosexual lifestyle any more than you do apparently, but at the same time, i believe in America and i believe i don't get to choose how my neighbors live their lives... Just like I can't tell a Jew or a Muslim or a Johova witness or mormon or Catholic for that matter to become a Protestant Christian like me, I don't feel I have the right to tell Gays that they can't live their lives how they see fit either... If you believe in Freedom, how can you be opposed to this? I don't like it, BELIEVE ME when i say i don't like it, but I don't feel it's my right to tell 2 consenting adults that they can't live the lifestyle they choose as long as it's not infringing on someone elses freedoms... and it's really not, Your idea that this is an attack on traditional marriage, please tell me... how is that? Do you really believe Gay people getting Married is going to somehow Make your or My Heterosexual Marriage any weaker? It's not.. I am not happy with it but man... I'm not happy with how a lot of people live their lives... and I'm nobody's judge, I believe there is a higher power that is judge of all... I'm just saying, Freedom is the fabric of America, Allowing more people more freedom will not tear this Nation down... I think you need to take a step back from the topic and re-evaluate your stance... I don't think anybody should be forced to agree with the Gay lifestyle, or think it's good, but i do think you should probably realize that it's not within our right to limit their freedom in this Country.
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  • worhtalook wrote...
    cbrew
    May 10, 2012 10:16 am
    For the most part of your post I would agree..I would also wonder what makes you a Christian..if you are one you will know what I mean by that.. what I have a problem with is marriage verses civil union, which DOES give them equal rights..it just has a different label..which IS very imporetant to the CHristian community, and apparently many others who are oppopsed to it. I would never stand in the way of peoples rights as long as it is not hurting others or potentially hurting our country. It is that they want to fight to take the title of Marriage just for the sake of a fight..not because they have not been given every legal right a heterosexual coulpe is given. That to me is the obvious problem..like a spoiled child wanting what someone else has or they will throw a tantrem..AND for the record..it is not only the "Christian" community that is against this..it is many many others who are not or would not claim to be associated to any religious beliefs or ideology..and yet the Homosexuals insist on making this a Religious issue.
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  • Cbrew wrote...
    worhtalook
    May 10, 2012 11:09 am
    What makes me a Christian? Hrmm.. I would say my belief that Jesus Christ is my lord and savior... that would be why i consider myself a christian, I'm actually not sure what your question was about please clarify. As to your post about the term Marriage, i do understand what you're saying and i don't understand why the Gay and Lesbian movement insists on it being called Marriage, personally i think it makes sense to call it civil unions for them, it still provides equal legal rights correct? Makes sense to me, like i said earlier i'm not a fan of the Homosexual lifestyle and i'm not a fan of their movement, but my feelings are that freedom should be protected and gays marrying or Union-ing doesn't affect me myself in any way... Because i'm not gay, i'm not going to stop thinking it's wrong to be gay... my marriage is safe, i know what it means etc. and yes i am not happy that gays have tried to single out the christian community as being bigoted for having their viewpoints on homosexuality... that is unfair in my opinion as well.
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  • mobeta wrote...
    Cbrew, they have infected you
    May 10, 2012 11:08 am
    They want you to be apathetic so they can pass their agenda and it has worked with you, congratulations. If you are a Christian as I am then this lifestyle is rot and decay on society and I don't care if anyone feels different, it's the way I'm wired and in my faith. Regarding making your marriage any weaker.....no but it make marriage as an institution weaker and sends society to live a devious life is ok. Society will perish slowly but surely just like it has for 40+ years with the liberal infestation that has infiltrated our society. I don't need to have anyone tell me to rethink what I know is right. By the way, a man and a woman fit together pretty good as evolution was planned in God's eye. Stay in the friken closet and don't shove it down our throats!!! Get it?
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  • Cbrew wrote...
    mobeta - I know what you're saying
    May 10, 2012 11:39 am
    I get that you disagree with their lifestyle and so do I, but again i point to the fact that i don't feel it's my right to impose my beliefs on someone else as an American. That's something we hold dear in this country.. that no matter where you come from or what religion you are, you can be free in this country to practice your beliefs... My question to you is, if it's okay for Satanists to exist in our society and be protected under the law, how is it not okay for homosexuals to be protected under the law? You're absolutely right, civilization is degrading, and it was prophecized that it would degrade to the point that Sinners outnumber believers and the end times will come... I know there is evil in our society but I don't think passing laws against certain groups will stop that... I think the battle over people's morality and their souls is best won by living example lives of what it means to be a Christian, not by trying to force people to believe... Remember, Christ did not come to Earth with the sword, he did not ask us to kill all non-believers... he asked us to love even those we consider our enemies, he asked us to let him be the judge of all creation, not judge our neighbors... This is what i believe, this is why i do not try to stop these people from doing what they will... because Their lifestyle choice, though evil in my eyes, is still their choice and they have a chance so long as they breathe to redeem themselves, just like you and i do for the sins we commit.... ... do you see what i'm saying?
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  • mobeta wrote...
    Stay in the closet and don't come out!!!!!
    May 10, 2012 12:18 pm
    That's all. i don't go around with my wife and do public displays of affection and it's not me bringing this disgusting behavior up! Stay in the closet, you can get any right you want by writing up a contract. My cousin died of AIDS and know of many more that have most were great guys but he destroyed their lives of his wife and kids with his devious behavior so don't tell me that homosexuality hasn't had an effect on society! Geezzz! Again, stay in the closet and don't come out. Get an attorney and set up your life and leave me and us heterosexuals out of it to waller in their disgusting lifestyle!
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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Mobeta claims marriage equality "attacks" traditional marriage.
    May 10, 2012 8:54 am
    How so, Mobeta?

    Are you married? If so, will you be less married, less committed to your spouse, less willing to support your kids (if any) because a same-sex couple would enjoy *all* of the same legal rights that you and your spouse have long taken for granted?

    Are you quite likely to leave your current spouse and seek out a same-sex partner because it would be "legal" to do so? Are our procreative and sexual urges a matter of civil law, or basic biology? How does what somebody else does in their marriage, or whomever they choose to marry, "attack" your marriage? I'd like a little more info, thanks.

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  • mobeta wrote...
    Chuckster
    May 10, 2012 11:13 am
    Been married 32 year my friend, have 3 wonderful sons brought up in God's word and for you to assume that I will be less married is not the point? What kind of comment is that? Moronic to say the least. You don't get it so why try to explain to someone who tries to be cute and try to sound smart and shows his ignorance in full color! It's the institution you Dip Stick that keeps civilization going and in order not out of order as the Gay lifestyle is.
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  • Cbrew wrote...
    Mobeta
    May 10, 2012 11:49 am
    You'll hear no disagreement from me sir, I believe the Gay lifestyle to be evil, i don't think it's good for people i do think it is wrong, but again i must say there are evil doers throughout our society, there are those who worship false prophets, (in my eyes, mormons, hindu's, Muslims) those who commit adultery and lie and steal and cheat and all the rest, and we do not use laws to try to defeat this immorality, rather we try to prove to them that our way is right... i don't believe you win people over by telling them they're wrong, you show them... you live a life like the one you described, you prove that you have 3 well adjusted sons that are good men.. because they lived in a traditional family etc. That is the proof you show the world, don't take this as if people are saying they're happy that Gays can marry, just recognize that it's not up to the Government to convince people to live a proper life... a good life.. Immorality isn't stomped out by laws, it's stomped out by education and morales being passed down by good people. I'm telling you, this is always a bigger argument than it is a problem... something like 1% of the population say they're gay... that means every 100 people you walk by there might be 1 gay person... this to me is not a case where we're degrading society by passing these laws... we're simply choosing not to enact laws to stop people from being immoral, these choices must be made by the individuals.
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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Mobeta: As a fellow Christian, I don't consider my marriage an "institution"
    May 10, 2012 2:31 pm
    Congrats on your 32 year marriage. More than 40 for my wife and I. As you probably know, it takes a little work sometimes to sustain a healthy marriage so again, congrats on yours.

    From a Christian perspective, I don't consider marriage an institution. Marriage is a religious sacrament. A covenant that my wife and I entered into, before God and and an assembled congregation, to be sexually and emotionally faithful to one another until "death us do part".

    Our marriage doesn't depend upon somebody else being married, remaining single, or promising to be sexually and emotionally faithful to anybody else. Nor, should our marriage prevent other people from entering into the same covenant of fidelity that my wife and I did.

    From a non-religious standpoint, there remain, even in "civil union" states, certain legal rights that are extended to couples that are "married" and denied couples who are merely in a "civil union". Some people believe that people unlike themselves are undeserving of equal legal rights; but unless that's the case for a specific individual it's hard to see exactly how two people of *any* description deciding to marry impacts the life or the marriage of an outside party.

    As far as the procreation argument goes, very few gays would marry a member of the opposite sex simply because it was legal to do that, but illegal to marry somebody they felt emotionally and sexually attracted to. They aren't going to biologically reproduce, anyway.

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  • The Chuckster wrote...
    I will provide
    May 10, 2012 8:29 am
    Centrist opinions that will educate the masses. I will lecture of civility while questioning anyone who thinks differently while defining them as unintelligent and mentally sick. I am the judge of whats right and wrong becuase I am a liberal. If you all don't fall in line, I will tell on you
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  • Moondoggie wrote...
    Evolved?
    May 10, 2012 8:29 am
    In 1996 Obama stated that he was for gay marriage but from 2008 through 2011 he was against gay marriage. Now he is back to the position he took in 1996. That is some great leader we have in Mr. Obama. Let’s give him a “Provide in Courage Award”
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  • mobeta wrote...
    Obamamama has been accused to sexual relations with another guy. It's all over youtude
    May 10, 2012 8:43 am
    Not surprising, this man has a vision to bring down America that start with his association with Bill Ayers who was convicted trying to blow up the pentagon,(now a professor at Chicago U) and this has been in place for decades and Obamama is the puppet. I will say, he is good at deceiving the people who can't think or see what he is doing and follow him like sheep right off the cliff. Here is a good video for all you weak kneed lib's. This was on the Bill Maher show that gave 1 million dollars to Obamamama. This is good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2kGPdxkofo
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  • grow up/get real wrote...
    Isn't "evolving" so politically convenient!
    May 10, 2012 8:35 am
    This Prez would do anything to suck up a few votes and some campaign bucks.
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  • Fuego wrote...
    Dave, It doesn't sound like
    May 10, 2012 8:39 am
    you're too thrilled with BO's evolution. Does this mean you're going to evolve and vote for the other guy in November?
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  • mobeta wrote...
    Fuego!
    May 10, 2012 8:48 am
    Not a chance. Are you kidding me? lol Dave is a noodle legged weenie pacifist and any other adjective that describes being a liberal. Facts, they don't matter. He will love this topic. It's right down his ally! He probably has a tingle in his leg?!?!?!
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  • Don of the dead wrote...
    mobeta has it right!!
    May 10, 2012 8:57 am
    But little obama just opened up a can of worms because there are over 700 million more Christians in the US then the freaks he wants to vote for him. HA HA bye bye little o!
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  • Cbrew wrote...
    Don of the Dead - I don't know why i bother to correct you
    May 10, 2012 11:51 am
    there are only 300 million people in the United States according to the census and that includes illegal aliens... might want to look up things like this before you post.
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  • Don of the dead wrote...
    HA Cbrew
    May 10, 2012 12:53 pm
    Don't you know sarcasm when ya hear it. I guess i ment a billion.
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  • delvin wrote...
    mobetter is right Dave and Luke love this issue so much they spend an inordinate about of time on something effecting so few people
    May 10, 2012 11:40 am
    They like to be santimonious!
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  • mobeta wrote...
    Thanks Delvin
    May 10, 2012 12:24 pm
    you da man! We can't let them (the noodle legged libs') do this anymore just run their crap at us! We need to stand up and fight these lib's with everything we have. They have woke up the sleeping giant and Obamamama will go down hard and I hope the rest of the noodle legged disgusting deviant liberals who support all of their agenda's.
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  • The Chuckster wrote...
    Mobeta
    May 10, 2012 8:55 am
    We are tearing down traditional America from you intolerant people who don't think exactly like CBrew, Willie and I think. We ignored Obamas marriage stance until yesterday. Now it fits our narrative. We will be exactly like the Europeon socialists we love and admire so much. If you have a issue with that mobeta, your dumb and I am going to tell on you
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  • mobeta wrote...
    Checukmister....I can't believe you!
    May 10, 2012 11:20 am
    You think this is the first time I have thought about it? You are more moronic that I thought. i have never ignored it and he is doing exactly what he said he would do and what I thought he would do, just that no one wanted to really understand what he said and I did. Obmamama has bad intentions and it will come to light shortly and has been EVOLVING day by day. Yep, I'm a pretty dumb guy! Watch out for me! I just laugh at you people how infected you are.
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  • cdbtx wrote...
    What would you say
    May 10, 2012 8:56 am
    for $60M Dave?
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  • IloveJesus wrote...
    Now he will step out of his rainbow cocoon.
    May 10, 2012 8:56 am
    and spread his rainbow wings........ Evolved??? Really? What a man....he makes me tingle all over. Such conviction - such strength of character, such BS
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