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Woman tells story of husband's transition to become a woman

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Tom Gabel, lead singer of the band Against Me!, told Rolling Stone he lives with a condition called gender dysphoria, and plans to become a woman. (AP Photo)

What would you do if your spouse told you that they wanted to change genders?

The topic came up on 97.3 KIRO FM's Ross and Burbank Show after the front man of punk band Against Me! told Rolling Stone he planned to become a woman.

Tom Gabel told the mag he had privately lived with a condition called gender dysphoria, which is a gender identity disorder where a person does not identify with the gender they were assigned at birth, and finds it uncomfortable to live as a person of that gender. Gabel said he planned to undergo a transition from male to female while staying married to his wife.

"We were trying to figure out how it could be that somebody would be able to make the decision to stay with their spouse when their spouse completely changed genders," explained host Luke Burbank.

A listener, hearing the discussion, thought she could shed some light on the subject and offered to share the experience she had when her husband came to her with a similar revelation.

"I was trying to understand what he was saying," said Lisa, of Woodinville. "I understood he wasn't who I thought he was, and he didn't feel like who he presented himself to be."

Lisa said her husband, who now identifies as a woman, came to her about 10 years into their marriage with the first indication that he was questioning his gender identity.

"We had been married about 10 years at that time and had a couple of kids. We had a family and we loved each other and wanted to stay together. It just basically was something we didn't talk about or deal with because we wanted to hold our family together."

While they didn't act on it at that time, Lisa said it became clear that her husband was not going to be able to continue living as a man.

"It became increasingly apparent that if he didn't deal with this, it was not going to be good."

They discussed his undergoing hormone therapy. "I was supportive of that. I didn't want to tell him what he could or couldn't do."

Her husband eventually underwent a surgical procedure completing a transition from male to female, and while they are no longer together, she said in her opinion, it was absolutely the right choice for her spouse.

Lisa said her former spouse is "very much more at peace and feels right now."

The couple's son and daughter are also accepting of the transition.

"We were very thoughtful about explaining what it means to be transgender," said Lisa, of the conversations they had with their children.

While Lisa acknowledged she's sad at the loss of their marriage and family unit, she said she's thankful for the peace her former spouse has found.

"If you love somebody, you don't want them to be in pain. You don't want them to go through their life struggling with something that is that emotionally painful."

She said she learned that people don't have a choice in the matter.

"Who in their right mind would choose to change their gender with the huge impact that it has on their life, with their family, their relationships with friends, their jobs?" asked Lisa.

"People don't make a choice. People don't make the choice to be gay, or they don't make this choice to be transgender," said Lisa. "It's the way people are, and other people need to understand that to be accepting."

By JAMIE GRISWOLD, MyNorthwest.com Editor

Jamie Skorheim, MyNorthwest.com Editor
Whether it's floating on Green Lake, eating shrimp tacos at Agua Verde, or taking weekend drives out to the Cascades, she loves to enjoy the Pacific Northwest lifestyle as much as humanly possible.

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  • Mike_D34 wrote...
    To Lisa
    "People don't make a choice. People don't make the choice to be gay, or they don't make this choice to be transgender," said Lisa. "It's the way people are, and other people need to understand that to be accepting." Uh... NO WE DON'T!!! Tolerance does NOT EQUATE to ACCEPTANCE!! So don't push it!!!
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  • chellesbelles wrote...
    Tolerance does NOT EQUATE to ACCEPTANCE!! So don't push it!!!
    Couldn't have said it better myself!
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  • GloScot wrote...
    DNA?
    Doesn't everything in one's DNA code determine what sex that person has? I honestly don't understand people such as the one in this article. I can feel a certain way but that doesn't make it the truth. Therefore, I strongly disagree with Lisa. I can't imagine willingly dismantling my family over this. Lisa wants everyone to understand and accept it, but how far was she willing to accept it? That family is no longer together because of her former spouse's actions. I can't imagine that Tom Gabel's outcome is going to be any different.
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  • roomtemp wrote...
    I can relate...
    My very best friend on the whole planet went through this. -Brother from another mother, turned sister from another mister.

    It's been interesting and I've learned a lot. Most people have a hard time separating gender identity from sexual identity, but they're not the same thing at all.

    The hardest part for me has been the transition to female personal pronouns. After 20 yrs, things really become habit. ;-)

    What's kind of funny is that he thought he would lose all his long time friends by becoming a she. There's a bunch of Christian conservative types in our group (myself included). Some people do, but I wonder if they were ever true friends in the first place. As it turns out, no one bailed.

    When asked, I just chuckled and said. You just changed your fashion choices, not your soul. Now you know which part we loved all along...

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  • Snout wrote...
    Geez, wouldn't seeing a shrink and getting some meds
    be cheaper and easier than mutilating yourself??? And it's not "who you are" it's a mental disorder called gender dysphoria. If I think I'm a kangaroo should I start snipping a little skin here, sewing a pouch over there and attaching prosthetic ears to my head? In my mental state it's just "who I am."
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  • Stevebo wrote...
    I'd strongly suggest people watch the movie "Normal"
    It starred Tom Wilkinson and Jessica Lange and addressed this very issue.

    I think a lot of people have a LOT of misunderstanding about this topic because very few people know much about it.

    Many others have strong reactions out of fear of it... and I'd go as far as to say Mike_D34 and chellesbelles may be two people just like that given their need for CAPITALIZATION IN THEIR RESPONSE

    Gender dysphoria is a real and recognized condition. It's no different than a person coming out as gay. It's not something people "choose" in their lives.

    It's about people being who they were truly meant to be.

    I'm always glad when even a few people at least learn more about these types of issues when they are brought up.

    ... though I'm sure there will be no lack for closed-minded responses.

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  • Keitho wrote...
    Ross and Burbank show......
    Has become a freak show
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  • CH wrote...
    The freak show is after the . . . .
    Ross and Burbank show.
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  • Realitycheck wrote...
    CH
    No you are the freak
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  • roll wrote...
    R&B
    yep try to spin it dave cant justify occupy and other libs burning breaking in the name of peace. tea party is so dangerose we need to stop those radicle teabaggers. nancy wrangle biden . who got permits who cleand up who broke what. tea clean and good 100% .occupy dirty and damage 100%. yep dave keep fanning the flames of hate and discontent you can open your mouth all you want actions speak louder than words. they have both spoken and i see real life .no koolaid or rainbows for me i go with the facts
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  • CH wrote...
    Realitycheck . . . .
    No you are the freak
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  • longwayhome wrote...
    a.j.
    You are a neanderthal. Look it up, a pre-historic creature that served no purpose on earth and is now extinct. How can you be so blind as to call this "mental illness"? You are a homophobic republican. You truly believe you are right and if your past posts indicate your blindness to fact versus republican fiction, I really feel sorry for you. You are delusional to think the way you do. I know it won't make any difference that I posted this but I stated my case.
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