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Understanding God's plan

July 19, 2012 @ 8:41 am (Updated: 9:10 am - 7/19/12 )

What George Zimmerman told Sean Hannity closely matches what he told police the day after he shot Trayvon Martin. He doesn't seem to be a racist; he seems like a nice guy.

What intrigued me was this:

"I feel that it was all God's plan, and for me to second guess it," said Zimmerman.

All God's plan. And I wondered, what did he mean by that?

Well, listen to how he describes the appearance of the gun. He says Martin was straddling him and pounding his head into the ground. He tries to shimmy away and his jacket rides up, revealing his holster.

"I realized that it wasn't my gun, it wasn't his gun, it was the gun," said Zimmerman.

"It wasn't my gun, it wasn't his gun, it was the gun." Under no one's control as if it just appeared like a divine experiment?

"He said, 'You're going to die tonight' and took one hand off of my mouth and I felt it going down my chest towards my belt, my holster," said Zimmerman.

And that's when everything changed because now the fight was no longer Martin vs. Zimmerman. It was two men fighting for a gun.

Until that moment, it had been a fist fight. Zimmerman was getting pummeled, but he was successfully defending himself. He admits the police arrived within 30 seconds, which means he probably wasn't in danger of dying until that uncontrolled gun appeared.

So what about God? I think God intended that fights get settled with fists, since hands are the weapons we're born with.

But putting a gun in that hand is a choice that we make.

Maybe God's plan was to use this case to remind us of that.

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  • Paul Kersey wrote...
    nice....a pile of unholy crap
    July 19, 2012 7:56 am
    mixed with a load of liberal progressive crap.
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  • sportsguru wrote...
    Bottom line!!!!
    July 19, 2012 8:05 am

    Bigotry/Racism wrapped in religion is still Bigotry/Racism and we see Bigotry/Racism on this blog and in the world everyday that is neatly packaged under guise of religion.

    I find it interesting that he is getting his butt kicked and not in control, but as soon as he notice that Trayvon notices the gun, he is a man on a mission and is able to overpower Travon and get the gun and shoot him,lol.

    Oh Boy

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  • Caravanman wrote...
    sportsguru
    July 19, 2012 9:01 am
    I find it interesting that you mention racism, when it was racist black people that got him charged to begin with. Or is that what you were referring to?
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  • Paul Kersey wrote...
    sportsguru
    July 19, 2012 11:54 am
    Why do you hate Hispanics?
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  • The Chuckster wrote...
    Dave Ross and the lib media jabronis
    July 19, 2012 8:08 am
    Like this story. The Hispanic democrat shot a black kid and it's white conservatives fault
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    Chuckster
    July 19, 2012 9:57 am
    It is atleast better than CNN's original story and pics of the evil giant white man killing the tiny adolescent boy. Not much better but a little.
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  • Whidbeyboy wrote...
    of course...
    July 20, 2012 3:33 pm
    it's always the white conservatives that blame it on God.
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  • A T Larabee wrote...
    THE REST OF GODS PLAN
    July 19, 2012 8:11 am
    Will be a long term in prison to give Zimmerman time to meditate.
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  • Lonestar wrote...
    Dear Jesus Crab
    July 19, 2012 8:17 am
    Deliver us from evil. Amen.
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    Lonestar
    July 19, 2012 1:43 pm
    Dear Jesus crab, deliver us some butter and your tasty legs! This is where the Catholics got it right! The body of Christ! YUMMY! Aint no flat wafer here!
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    Earth to Zimmerman (or rather Heaven to Zimmerman) :::
    July 19, 2012 8:21 am
    Even in the days God spoke directly to a lot of people (Noah, Moses, et al), I don't know He worked hand in hand with each of us every moment of our lives. .. We WERE, after all, given free will. Without it, all we would be is just cute pets in the zoo called Planet Earth. And even God might get tired of cute pets eventually.

    So - I somehow doubt Gad had George Zimmerman shoot Trayvon Martin for His amusement.

    What this whole story DOES sound like to me is a guy who made a very bad mistake now sitting around both then and now thinking up how he can justify his actions to himself. Let alone to society or to God. Just a scared man trying to cope with taking the life of another human being.

    Maybe God does have a plan for George Zimmerman. But maybe nothing to do with the shooting, except the acceptance of responsibility. And maybe it hasn't even started yet.

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  • cdbtx wrote...
    Dave - You obviously don't even believe what you write
    July 19, 2012 8:37 am
    God also gave us feet - but you're not walking to work... why not?

    He always gave us brains.. what happened there?

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  • Whidbeyboy wrote...
    But....
    July 20, 2012 3:37 pm
    God has killed some 20 million people, being the biggest mass murderer ever, so maybe he wants us to do his work for him now. Oh, and not to mention all the animals he killed that are too many to mention here.
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  • dadof3 wrote...
    God's plan?
    July 19, 2012 8:39 am
    Maybe it's "God's plan" to remind us to fight with our fists? That's ridiculous. It's more likely God's plan to remind us not to fight at all. The death of Martin is very sad, but he is the one that made it physical. By all accounts, he turned, attached, and was beating Zimmermans head into the sidewalk when the shot was fired. The lesson here should me, don't throw the first punch, because you never know how it will turn out. If Zimmerman had died of some sort of head injury, we never would have heard of this, but Martin would be headed to jail.
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  • Drool wrote...
    "By all accounts"?
    July 19, 2012 8:53 am
    By one account....Zimmerman's. I have yet to see a report that ANYBODY else saw the beginning of the altercation.
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    it is the only account needed
    July 19, 2012 9:02 am
    When you take all of the circumstatial evidence and the law in to consideration.
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    Wow
    July 19, 2012 8:59 am
    So if you don't side with Trayvon your posts get deleted! WOW! Thanks free speech!
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Caravanman
    July 19, 2012 12:04 pm
    What go's on a blog like this is not "free speech" who ever runs the blog can censor it and make the rules of what go's.
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    Sad story
    July 19, 2012 9:00 am
    But in the end justice will prevail and Zimm will go free!
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Caravanman
    July 19, 2012 12:05 pm
    What leads you to believe that Zimmerman is innocent of any crime? Give us a few reasons.Got any?
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  • bigdogina4x4 wrote...
    The Reasons........
    July 20, 2012 11:44 am
    #1 - Zimmerman was being beaten, with Travon straddled over him, pounding his head into the ground. THIS IS HAPPENING BEFORE THE GUN IS PART OF THE SCENE. Trayvon is assaulting Zimmerman in the 1st degree, and the shooting is self defense. So anyways, it's sad that Trayvon was shot and killed, and my condolenses to his family, but It is pretty hard to be the victim when you are on top of another man beating him to death.
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    in the end
    July 19, 2012 9:06 am
    like it or not, Trayvon made some very bad mistakes. He was making them long before this, but these decisions ended his life. It is sad, but we cannot keep blaming Zimmerman. Trayvon may not have deserved the death penalty, but Zimm surely didn't either! I hope that parents everywhere think about this and try to raise thier kids with respect and steer them away from violence.
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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Caravanman and "Trevon's very bad mistakes"...
    July 19, 2012 9:28 am
    You miss the point. Zimmerman wasn't reacting to the entire, checkered history of Martin's youth. He wasn't reacting to some report, dredged up days later, that Martin had been in trouble for carrying a screw driver in his backpack at school, ("burglar tools!" according to Fox News), he wasn't judging Martin's life history at that point. Such life history judgment has been the realm of Zimmerman apologists since the shooting. (Sort of like retiring retroactively)

    Zimmerman didn't know *who* Martin was, but he was pretty sure *what* he was. A black kid, in a hoodie, walking around a neighborhood he felt it was his duty to patrol while armed with a gun. "Oh boy! Here's my chance to man up and be a hero! I can catch me one of them thar sneaky folk who wear hoodies! He sure looks like he's up to no good, just exactly like I told the 9-11 dispatcher"

    God's will? "Go thou,Zimmerman, and arm thyself with a pistol! Lay thee in wait until my sacrifice appears. Ignore thee any advice of the police to remain in your vehicle. Follow thy victim and provoke a violent confrontation. As the fight breaks out, protect thyself by slaying my sacrifice for me!"

    Uh, I think not. Zimmerman may have heard a voice instructing him to do all the specific things he did that led to him killing an unarmed young man returning to his Dad's apartment from a nearby convenience store- but as I understand God I will say it wasn't God's will or God's plan that Zimmerman would slay Martin.

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  • Caravanman wrote...
    Chuck
    July 19, 2012 9:40 am
    With good reason he knew "what" Trayvon was, or do we just forget about the crime wave inflicted by young black men in hoodies? I think not! As far as him manning up and playing hero, good on him! I wish more people cared about their neighbors and where they lived! It was a sad ending, but Trayvon made the decision to be the "angry man that isn't going to take it anymore" as we all hear about in rap music. This is what got him killed. A little calmness and self control would have resulted in Zimm holding him till the cops came and all would have been straightened out!
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  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Caravanman actually wrote: "do we just forget about the crime wave inflicted by young black men in hoodies?"
    July 19, 2012 9:47 am
    Oh....my....gosh. Trayvon Martin is suddenly and personally responsible and punishable for a crime wave?

    So that's it, eh? There's a stereotypical perception that young black men wearing hooded sweatshirts are all involved in a "crime wave"? Oh, well, since you put it that way might was well just shoot any one of them on sight. If you don't kill an actual criminal, it will send a message to the rest of "them" and that will cut down on crime, you know. :-(

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  • Caravanman wrote...
    Chuck
    July 19, 2012 9:51 am
    So if your hood was being robbed on a regular basis by green frogs wearing pink hats, you wouldn't think it was suspicious that a green frog in a pink hat was in your neighbors yard? Man, you bleeding hearts are sure stupid! You keep living in your little perfect world and let them rob and violate you. Me? I am stying and profiling! I will not be a victim! As far as his punishment, he was punished for trying to kill Zimmerman. A deserved punishment!
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    Chuck wrote: If you don't kill an actual criminal, it will send a message to the rest of "them" and that will cut down on crime, you know
    July 19, 2012 10:01 am
    I like your way of thinking, except stats, like crime stats and prison stats tell us it would be a better than average chance that it would actually be a criminal.
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    Alert to everyone
    July 19, 2012 10:11 am
    If someone matching the description of robbers in your area is spotted by Chuck, he will help them carry out your stuff to their thug mobile! Otherwise it would be racist and profiling!
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  • messiah101 wrote...
    Caravanman
    July 19, 2012 12:14 pm
    So someone walking down a public street has no right to protecting himself from a no body who took it upon himself to be the local sheriff.In the interview Zimmerman stated that Trayvon saw the gun during the fight and that would lead me to believe that instead of it being just a fight it was a life/death struggle in Trayvons mind.The fault lays in Zimmermans lap for introducing the GUN.Zimmerman claimed that Trayvon struck him in the head a dozen times and he feared for his life but the photos taken shortly after certainly did'nt show much damage to Zimmermans head to show he should have felt his life was in jepordy
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    messiah
    July 19, 2012 12:25 pm
    The stand your ground law protects a person in Zimms situation, as you and the world will soon see. I believe Zimm, mostly due to traythugs past and facebook posts. They show him as a thug. A thug would do what Zimm said happened. Zimm tried to stop him and or keep an eye on him until the cops could get there. Tray didn't like that and decided to stand his ground as well. Unfortunatley, traythug died. It could have went the other way and tray would have been protected by the law.
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    messiah
    July 19, 2012 12:27 pm
    more proof? Why in the world would Zimm call 911 if he was just out to kill the kid, or to play billy bad a55? HE wouldn't. HE didn't. Traythug attacked him.
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    messiah
    July 19, 2012 12:35 pm
    And why would tray attack him if he thought it was a life or death struggle? Unless he planned on killing Zimm...That make no sense at all! And HE did attack Zimm! Don't be fooled by the zoomed out cnn/thug pics and video. Look at the real pics and video. Zimms head was cut up pretty bad and his nose was broken as well.
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  • bos wrote...
    Karma
    July 19, 2012 9:47 am
    But God probably did guide Zimmerman's hand because "Trevon's very bad mistakes" gave him bad karma.
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    bos
    July 19, 2012 12:32 pm
    No, it wasn't karma. This isn't My name is Earl. It was the fact that tray was trying to get to the gun first to shoot Zimm. That is what got him killed! Did you not hear the interview? Did tray dispute this?
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  • Caravanman wrote...
    Chuck
    July 19, 2012 9:47 am
    No, I do not beleive it was gods will unless Trayvon was set to do really bad things but that would be speculation on my part. I cannot believe god was even brought up. I believe Zimmerman was defending himself and will be aquitted, but he is a moron who should keep his mouth shut! Specially aobut god.
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    Agreed - Zimmerman is acting like a moron.
    July 19, 2012 10:01 am
    And it may not be an act.

    But at this point all it's likely to do is get him a mental examination either before or after he is convicted. George had best stop talking now before he talks his way into a heavier sentence.

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