TCTI: Too Crazy Too Ignore
 Dave Ross
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Rain drops gather on a rose near a teddy bear on a makeshift memorial in the Sandy Hook village of Newtown, Conn., Monday, Dec. 17, 2012, as the town mourns victims killed in Friday's school shooting. (AP Photo/Julio Cortez)

Are we fed up yet?

BY Dave Ross  on December 17, 2012 @ 8:28 am (Updated: 10:46 am - 12/17/12 )

Is the massacre in Connecticut going to be the watershed that breaks the deadlock on gun control?

A new Huffington Post poll found 50 percent of Americans say they want stricter gun laws now.

But the same problem is still there: What new law would have prevented Adam Lanza from shooting up that school?

Maybe a law that would have required his mother to lock up her guns? With regular inspections? Or a strict ban on military-style weapons with high capacity magazines? Then his mother could never have bought that AR-15. And he might have been forced to stop and reload, which might have given those teachers a chance to tackle him.

But that's still no guarantee, because this shooter was single-minded, secretive, and suicidal.

Then there's the other reality: that there are members of Congress who still believe that Americans must always have access to the kind of weapons that would enable them to fend off government tyranny, and the Connecticut massacre changes nothing for them.

Rep Louie Gohmert of Texas on Fox News Sunday said if anything, you give the teacher an assault weapon to fight back. You don't take assault weapons away from the American people.

"A free people should be an armed people. It insures against the tyranny of the government. If they know the biggest army is the American people then you don't have the tyranny that came from King George," Gohmert said.

Well, the British seem to have no interest in taking us back. So I guess it's working.

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  • black_bart wrote...
    wow, so you can end the violence by banning guns?
    December 17, 2012 1:50 pm
    they should do that with methamphetamine and cocaine!
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    Dave - just WHICH WAY would you like the deadlick resolved?
    December 17, 2012 1:56 pm
    Silly question. I think any of us can guess with 99% certainty.

    And your naivety on this subject begs question. ... Yes, what laws WOULD have prevented this psychopath - or others - from killing? Perhaps his mother DID normally lock up her guns, but made a one time mistake. But if he didn't find guns at home. he might have stolen them (like the Portland Mall shooter). ... Without his clips, he might have had to reload more often - but, save for the class teacher, he killed all the adults first. Without needing to reload.

    And just what makes you think, Dave, that a person motivated to kill an entire first grade class would have been deterred by ANY laws or restrictions on guns? Suicide bombers throughout the Near & Middle East make due savagely with bombs. Without any need for guns.

    But, Dave. Just keep believing that weapons - from sticks & rocks to bombs and gins - are the problem. Just keep ignoring that there just MAY be a problem with some people. And that THAT is the problem we must try to solve.

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  • tlmbrt wrote...
    NO GUN LAW
    December 17, 2012 2:20 pm
    would have stopped this. You can argue that if his mother had been prevented from owning guns, it would not have happened. That is ridiculous and unknowable! A person committed to carrying out mass murder will FIND A WAY, whether it be with KNIVES, or EXPLOSIVES or WHATEVER. Or he could have gotten guns from somewhere else. Stripping citizens of their right to own a gun will not have the desired effect. In fact, places with the strictest gun laws have the highest murder rates! STOP playing politics with an emotional, tragic event.
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  • Shplunker wrote...
    horrible
    December 17, 2012 4:00 pm
    Being a gun owner, this one is hard for me. I ABSOLUTELY feel safer owning a weapon - especially in the crappy, drug-dealing area my neighborhood has become. The fear of someone busting into my house (instead of the drug dealer next door that cops can't seem to get out)...has had me pull out the gun a couple of times. I'd have no problem using it. BUT..if my son/daughter had mental issues - I'd sure as heck make sure there was no way he could get his hands on it. My dad was right...Common sense doesn't exist anymore.
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  • BeenThere wrote...
    Why do people think schools are safe? Just because?
    December 17, 2012 5:24 pm
    Think about it. If someone was looking for the least resistance with the greatest number of potential victims in a confined space, schools would be it. I don't get the
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  • BeenThere wrote...
    cotinued... I don't get the belief that kids are automatically safe when their are not any real means of protection for the students.
    December 17, 2012 5:28 pm
    The trend seems to be easy targets in a confined space, regardless of the weapon.
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  • Rangerhawk wrote...
    If this guy had just escaped or been released from an Institution....
    December 17, 2012 5:31 pm
    Would we still be going after our neighbors guns?
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  • sportsguru wrote...
    I find it hilarious
    December 17, 2012 6:22 pm
    That the RWNJ look to international country's and how they use gun rights i.e. isreal etc, however, when the same approach is used for healthcare and/or education then it get's dismissed as unamerican,ha,ha,. The right is the party of hyprocrisy, do as I say and not as I do,lol.
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  • It's me! Ha ha! wrote...
    RWNJ's sportsguru?
    December 17, 2012 8:26 pm
    A few posts back you sounded rational. No name calling. Like the veil of left wing brainwashing was gone and you could be someone to reason with. I always thought of all the Lefties here you could be the most reasonable of them at times.

    You thinking that banning guns will prevent this from happening again? What? Banning Gun shows? Purchasing them from a Gun shop? How about the Gang banger who can get it black market or simply steal it?

    Countless thousand of law abiding citizens who own guns killed NO ONE today or yesterday or the day before.

    So if your Dear Leader Obama is able to violate his oath of office and abolish the Second amendment what is next? the First? the fifth? The Fourteenth? And after all that, another act of mass evil occurs. What next?

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  • sportsguru wrote...
    It's me! Ha ha!
    December 17, 2012 9:10 pm

    Your last statement is why I go on rants and have fun with you conservatives, calling the President my dear leader,lol. You want a rational discussion but don't communicate in a rational manner. The nerve of you calling my behavior irrational the way you go on on this website. That's what I mean about hyprocrisy, there was a time, I could speak to you and agree to disagree but since the tea party won a few seats you have been off the hook Lord Ha,Ha,.

    I have no intention of asking and/or wanting anybody to give up GUNS, especially people that know how to care for them and don't look at them as some sort of toy and/or ends to a complicated society that we now find ourselves living in.

    I get tired of constitutionalist (only when it's something they care about, screw it on anything else) that think gun restriction is something new that just got started and in reality it's been going on since the formation of the AMERICA'S. Our constitution was adopted out of our war with the British, not out of some distrust with there own government that they was newly forming and a part of(stictly my interpretation)?

    I am more concerned with criminals and mentally ill having guns than law abiding with an emphasis on law abiding, but the fact of the matter is a lot of law abiding individuals are careless and STUPID, so now if what some apparently smart people have there way, I have to protect myself against criminals, mentally ill and the careless and stupid people as well. Case in point, good friend of mine father like to go hunting often, but also likes to drink alcohol when he hunts, makes a drunk mistake and shoots his own darn son and his son is paralyzed permanently, this man was trained, knew how to handle a firearm but was STUPID.

    how many times have you driven your car and aggressive driving between cars started some real entertainment on the freeway with road rage involving vehicles using deadly vehicles to one up the other, just imagine if they all have guns in there car while doing this,lol, stupid is as stupid does.

    I will readily admit that I don't have the answer to our societal problems, but my common sense tells me that arming the nation as a whole and allowing them to walk around society with guns attached in plain view is not the answer.

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  • rational wrote...
    sportsguru
    December 18, 2012 6:15 pm
    Our constitution was adopted out of our war with the British, not out of some distrust with there own government that they was newly forming and a part of(stictly my interpretation)?

    Yes, that is strictly your interpretation. The founding fathers had a serious distrust of big government, not just British government.

    Given that our current government has given itself the power to kill American citizens overseas without trial, the power to detain, again without trail or representation for how ever long they want and the power to keep files and wiretap citizens without warrant perhaps you should consider the federal government a greater risk than you appear to.

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  • rational wrote...
    So tell me...
    December 17, 2012 8:31 pm
    What laws would you like to put in place that would have kept all the firearms out of the hands of the mother? Because that's what you're really looking to do...the boy stole them, so to have stopped this one you need to have taken all of the firearms out of her hands. So how do you disarm every woman in the nation...or do you only disarm single women who live alone?
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  • MikeWA wrote...
    Fed up, not a good reason to restrict guns
    December 17, 2012 8:38 pm
    Dave, as usual, you are missing reality. The guns are not the problem. Its about time we all grow up and admit that the problem involves parenting, the mental health culture and the knee jerk reaction for a "quick fix". In the short term, placing armed guards in schools is a solution. Arming teachers and training them is another. Doing these things however, will just take us back to the same base problem: how do we detect people with mental health issues, then what are we willing to do about it. Statistics show that we are 9000 times more likely to be killed by our doctors than a gun. Stricter gun laws have not helped the problem. Stricter laws to deal with mental health is a much more practical solution. Mike Marysville
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