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There certainly have been hints that the traditional lines were moving in terms of gay marriage. (AP Photo/file)

Gay marriage becomes a conservative cause

BY Dave Ross  on March 1, 2013 @ 3:02 pm (Updated: 3:10 pm - 3/1/13 )

Somethin's happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear.

There certainly have been hints that the traditional lines were moving.

Vice President Cheney: "People ought to be free to enter into any kind of union they wish."

Colin Powell: "They are as stable a family as my family is."

And after Lady Gaga yelled at him: "Obama, are you listening?"

Even Barack Obama endorsed gay marriage.

And this week, with the US Supreme Court about to hear arguments on California Proposition 8, which overturned gay marriage - a group of more than 130 prominent Republicans signed a brief urging the court to allow California and any other state the right to grant gay couples a federally-recognized marriage.

Among the signers - former Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, and Meg Whitman, who endorsed prop 8 when she ran for California governor, but now quotes Britain's conservative prime minister David Cameron who said: 'Don't support gay marriage despite being a conservative. I support gay marriage because I am a conservative.'"

Then came a group of 278 corporate CEOs, saying prohibiting gay marriage needlessly complicates employee benefit plans, hurts morale, and hurts business.

And then late yesterday, another signature appeared: Clint Eastwood.

And if Clint Eastwood is signing on to gay marriage, the justices have the ask themselves. Do I feel lucky?

Dave Ross, KIRO Radio Talk Show Host
Dave Ross is co-host of The Ross & Burbank Show on KIRO Radio (weekdays 9-Noon) and never too far from the spotlight.
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  • SleeplessinPuyallup wrote...
    Some scriptures to consider..
    March 2, 2013 2:39 pm
    Isaiah 5:20,21 20 Woe to those who are saying that good is bad and bad is good, those who are putting darkness for light and light for darkness, those who are putting bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! 21 Woe to those wise in their own eyes and discreet even in front of their own faces! 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom?+ Do not be misled. Neither fornicators,+ nor idolaters,+ nor adulterers,*+ nor men kept for unnatural purposes,+ nor men who lie with men,*+ 10 nor thieves, nor greedy+ persons, nor drunkards,+ nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom.+ 11 And yet that is what some of YOU were.+ But YOU have been washed clean,+ but YOU have been sanctified,*+ but YOU have been declared righteous+ in the name of our* Lord Jesus Christ+ and with the spirit of our God.+ I appreciate this last one because it says this is what some of you WERE. We have the ability to change, to humble ourselves to a higher standard deserving of life. Please do not adhere to the false teachings of counterfeit Christianity for she will fall, and fall hard. Revelation chapter 18. There is a sure hope for us, not involving man-made attempts at self governance. Jesus' purpose was to reveal the truth about God's kingdom, which is no part of this world. (Luke 4:43; John 18:36) Don't take MY word for it, look it up and see for yourselves! Go in peace.
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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    And somehow all those people can get married, but not homosexuals.
    March 2, 2013 6:09 pm
    There were no words for homosexual back in those days. It's been loosely translated to "men who sleep with men", but the word that is used is a subject of contention and could be translated from anything like "male prostitute" to "effeminate men". Also, none of the four gospels mentions the subject, so we don't know how Jesus felt about it (since he himself never spoke of it). There is nothing in the Book of Acts, in Hebrews, in Revelation or in the letters attributed to James, Peter, John and Jude. Either way, I don't want the government to create laws based on the bible, the koran, the torah, or any other book that humans can distort to fit their own prejudices.
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  • SleeplessinPuyallup wrote...
    When will you start attacking Mr Webster?
    March 2, 2013 8:40 pm
    Marriage: The state of being husband and wife. Wife: A married woman. Husband: A married man. Is this hate speech?
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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    Oh snap, well I didn't know you were going to break out the Webster dictionary.
    March 2, 2013 9:39 pm
    Get the heck outta here. You go from quoting the bible to quoting Webster. You're all over the place...
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  • longwayhome wrote...
    gaymarriedguy
    March 2, 2013 8:12 pm
    Leave it to the republicans to FIND a way to lead their blind followers down the path of homophobia. Let's all hope and pray that the republicans are on their way down the path to oblivion. They have brought it on themselves with their neanderthal ways and close minded views on life.
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  • monkeyal wrote...
    Seems to me that in Washington,
    March 2, 2013 8:46 pm
    Arizona, and California, and in the federal courts, only the conservative legislation and initiatives get ruled as unconstitutional. Tim Eyman gets judicially reviewed by a different standard than all others. Left wing violations of federal law in areas of sanctuary cities, same sex marriage, and marijuana get ignored by federal bureaucrats, judges, and executive branch hacks who share the left wing agendas. In sum, the left picks and chooses constitutionality the same way as the 'cafeteria Catholics' pick and choose what Vatican policies they support. Selective legality and morality are the worshipped gods of the 'progressives'. In other words, double standards and moving goalposts are today's rule of law and it is tragic and shameful.
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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    Good God man, what are you talking about?
    March 2, 2013 9:31 pm
    The Constitution mentions zero about immigration, marijuana or same sex marriage. That's the whole point! I agree with you that Catholics pick and choose, some more than others. 98% of Catholics practice birth control. The Vatican and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops preach against war, for universal health care, for an increase in the minimum wage, for welfare for needy families, for unions, against the immigration bill in Arizona, against the death penalty, for humane treatment of illegal immigrants and wouldn't you believe, there are some creeps out there purporting to be Catholic who refuse to listen to the church? Hypocrites.
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  • hpitantso wrote...
    In need of a vote
    March 2, 2013 9:41 pm
    The conservative cause will stand for anything without true belief of issue. If don't believe Gay rights don't sell youself for votes. Second best at election time okay with the middle and left.
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  • WiIliam Lawn wrote...
    There is no such thing as Gay Marriage
    March 2, 2013 11:01 pm
    There will never be gay marriage. The United States did not create the institution of marriage. You liberals and anyone else lack the ability or authority to change the definition of marriage. You can pass whatever laws you like, it doesn't change reality. You can pass a law saying Black Americans are now Caucasian Americans. But it doesn't change reality, they are still black. You can pass a law saying gay people can be married to each other, but it doesn't change reality. They are not married. And they never will be (at least not to each other). There will never be a gay marriage, past, present, or future. And there is nothing the liberal hate machine can do about it. Except live in denial.
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  • Rangerhawk wrote...
    Bingo!
    March 3, 2013 6:13 am
    The point of the exercise lost on those not paying close attention is the churches (Christian) being forced to recognize/allow it or risk their tax exempt status under state/federal laws. If they (liberals)can just recreate God into their own image and un-friend Satan from Mankinds Facebook, everything will be Unicorns and rainbows!
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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    What?!?? Are you mental?
    March 3, 2013 7:49 am
    Or do you think denial is a river in Egypt? Only one in state if denial is you nerd. Are you sitting in the fetal position in some corner rocking back and forth saying to yourself, "There will never be gay marriage. There will never be gay marriage." Same sex marriage is here, it's clear, get used to it.
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    Uh - that's a Lawn post
    March 3, 2013 8:48 am
    which Lawn this time ???

    A bit different this past week or so, posing as a conservative of some sort.

    Unless you really are fairly new, gaygirl, lawn can pose as an ultra-leftist, also.

    .

    Of course, William Lawn has so many creations (including one or two funny ones), YOU could be one of his aliases. ???????

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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    Good Lord sir, you do give me the vapors.
    March 3, 2013 9:16 am
    I couldn't sound that stupid if I tried. I've come close, but even when I'm trying to be annoying I don't quite measure up to some. I think William Lawn is a progressive, but there's someone else who posts as William Lawn who's just a jerk. I don't think it's William Lawn going back and forth. I think two people have similar names/avatars. I could care less. I reply to the post, not the person. We're all just nameless nobodies anyways, except for AJ and possibly Bill Law, but posting their real names is just nutty, not brave.
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    and you think 'ron prevost' is a made up name? ?????
    March 3, 2013 10:35 am
    When I started this site, I guess I didn't know better than to post my real name - neither brave nor nutty. .......... And I once thought 'William Lawn' was a real name.

    A fairly respected poster pointer out, however, that WL is a ribbing take off of Bill Law (which is, it self, a true but not complete name).

    By my observations, Lawn was irritating and sometimes funny up to this new year when he - or someone else - went in this stolen identity gig. ... With vastly different personas.

    For the life of me, though, I don't know how someone can create multiple on line personas - let alone 'hijack' a screen name. .......... Of course, I barely remember how to turn on my computer from one day to the next.

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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    Ha ha, I didn't know that was your real name. It wasn't a shot.
    March 3, 2013 11:12 am
    Maybe now that you know better you should change it. You're not too crazy, but I would never put my real name on this blog. But then again I say pretty provocative things some times.
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  • William Lawn wrote...
    If you put your real identity out here
    March 3, 2013 1:51 pm
    AJ appears on your door step for a "visit".

    This, after all, is his life.

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  • ron prevost wrote...
    It is pretty easy Mr. ron
    March 3, 2013 1:40 pm
    Irritating?

    I'm insulted

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  • ron prevost wrote...
    very good, Mr. Lawn. .......just never do this agarin.
    March 3, 2013 5:08 pm
    I do enjoy most of your posts, however.

    It is fun to banter - and you usually don't take yourself too seriously.

    ;-)

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  • ron prevost wrote...
    BTW - If you do hijack my posts, everyone would see it was a fake
    March 3, 2013 5:10 pm
    without the typos.
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  • Yadda1 wrote...
    Somewhere in the bible
    March 3, 2013 5:16 am
    It says whites should not mix with blacks. Says it in Websters too. It's immoral.
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  • Rangerhawk wrote...
    Wow!
    March 3, 2013 6:17 am
    What an overlooked revelation! We must have all missed the fine print on that page. Which one is it?
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  • Yadda1 wrote...
    Aj
    March 3, 2013 8:08 am
    Yes it did. I heard it. On fox news. And the 700 club. It is gospel. Don't confuse me with facts. I've already made up my mind.
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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    Didn't they use the Tower of Babel as reasoning for this?
    March 3, 2013 9:24 am
    In Loving v Virginia, a black guy and a white chick were sentenced to a year in prison for marrying each other and the judge on the case said, "Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."
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  • Rangerhawk wrote...
    By this libtard logic we can conclude...
    March 3, 2013 9:48 am
    God's prophet was some judge in Virginia whos dead now. Gosh, now what are we supposed to do?
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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    Hmmm, interesting that the lunatic fringe wing of the conservative party
    March 3, 2013 9:55 am
    is now denying all knowledge of the bible being used to prevent interracial marriage. I suppose next you'll say the bible was never used to justify slavery either. I try to keep my posts at the Dick and Jane level, but the point was they used the bible to justify their hatred of interracial marriage, or slavery and now gays. Is there anything the bible can't help you hate on?
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    that lunatic fringe wing USED to be called 'Southern Democrats'
    March 3, 2013 10:49 am
    And INCLUDED that great progressive Woodrow Wilson. ............ Hatred is not a liberal / conservative divide. .. Just a sane vs stupid divide.
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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    Hmmm, operative words being "used to be".
    March 3, 2013 11:22 am
    I don't support the democratic party of the early 1900's anymore than I support the republican party of today. I also don't try to purify history. For many centuries racism was the norm and it took a lot of lives and tons of courage to change people's hearts.
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  • Yadda1 wrote...
    No way!
    March 3, 2013 10:00 am
    There was this black guy in my neighborhood who tried to convert me. He told me that being black was an exciting lifestyle and I should try it. I said NO WAY!!! I was born white and I am going to stay white! I told him he should become white because god loves white people the mostI heard he converted some people and god did not like it.
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  • WiIliam Lawn wrote...
    phony gay anti christian from hollywood.. err mental ward actually..
    March 3, 2013 10:35 am
    Yes it's panic for him. His living in denial life style is collapsing on him. He has to try hard to keep his illusion alive. Sorry but gay marriage is not here. It's not anywhere. And it will never be here. Call it gay marriage if you want, live in your delusional state of mind. Doesn't change reality, there is no such thing has gay marriage.
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  • cigarfan wrote...
    @William Lawn
    March 3, 2013 11:28 am
    What are you smoking?
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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    Idiot. I'm a chick and I'm straight.
    March 3, 2013 11:31 am
    The gay in my name refers to happily, merrily, joyfully, cheerfully, married. And yes, it's definitely panic...incoherent, Rapture-lusting, lemmings who claim to love their country but hate a majority of the people who live in it, always scare me. It's a good thing not too many of your imbecilic brethren can find a voting booth or we'd all be in deep trouble.
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  • WiIliam Lawn wrote...
    take another swig of your kool-aid
    March 3, 2013 11:53 am
    don't bother with the meds anymore, they aren't helping you
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  • gaymarriedchristianfromhollywood wrote...
    Ha! Joke's on you loser.
    March 3, 2013 3:31 pm
    I broke my foot/toe and they gave me a lot of pain pills and they ARE working. I can barely feel the pain of listening to you babble on and on. Don't think I don't know who you are twinkle toes. Your stupidity can't be hidden under a veil or more stupidity.
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  • AtheisticallyYours wrote...
    Get rid of ALL governmental "recognition"/opposition of marriage!
    March 3, 2013 3:57 pm
    The Supreme Court would do well to not only strike down DOMA, AND CA's Proposition 8, but also strike down ALL STATES MARRIAGE LAWS! Any state that "recognizes" or OPPOSES whatever two (or more!) consenting adults consider as "marriage" is a level of government GONE TOO FAR!
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