November 12, 2009 - 1:27 am

The bill is coming due

We have 22% real unemployment. A shocking number of people have been financially destroyed in this economy. Their financial present is bleak - their future even bleaker.

Those people could only dream of a lifetime six-figure retirement that is guaranteed to many state workers. While huge pensions have largely disappeared from the private sector, they are still routine in government work as our politicians continue to bleed taxpayers and our economy dry.

And it's leading to a coming financial tsunami in our state. Great report Wednesday night by KING-5's Susannah Frame:

The KING 5 Investigators found some of the top retirees include former energy executive Rod Webring, who has the biggest pension of all, about $250,000 a year.

Former Gov. Gary Locke is another top pensioner, with $104,000 a year in state benefits on top of his salary with the Obama administration.

A widow of a Seattle firefighter gets about $155,000 a year, more than triple what her husband made when he retired.

There's nothing wrong with these large pensions. The employees earned them and the state constitution guarantees they'll get them, no matter what.

The problem? These old plans are about to go broke.

...(A) report shows the old pension plans are now “at risk” of "running out of assets," be flat busted, in six to eight years.

"(That would be) the scenario of poor investment returns, if we have another decade like we just had where investment returns for an entire 10-year period were about 4 percent. (Our state) assumes 8 percent. If you have a flat period of investments and the legislature maybe not being able to fully fund these pensions, that's the scenario where you could see the (oldest) plans running out of money," said Smith.

If that happens, the money - about $15 million a month and growing - will come straight out of the general fund, or from higher taxes.

"In other words we'll be writing checks from the budget to pension recipients," said Sen Joe Zarelli, Ridgefield, Wash. "And a lot of things have to go because that's a lot of money to take from the bottom line."

How much? About $2 billion a year for 20 years before the bill would begin to taper down.

With $2 billion the state could hire 27,000 additional teachers.

Or provide health insurance for every uninsured citizen in the state.

Or give free tuition to every higher education student in Washington.

Maybe government has to be more like the private sector and get rid of these pensions. The financial cataclysm is coming in our state. Does anyone care? Can you SayWA?

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Meanwhile, are you ready for a 14% hike in your electric bill?

Seattle City Light customers will see substantial rate increases next year - the question is how much?

On Thursday the City Council's budget committee will consider proposals ranging from increasing rates by 7.9 percent to almost 14 percent.People will be asked to pay more because the utility faces a $140 million deficit on total revenues and funding from more than $1 billion in bonds.

For me, this is truly taxation without representation. I don't live in Seattle - so I don't have a vote for the mayor or city council that decide these hikes. But I'm a City Light customer. "Taxation without representation is tyranny" - it was true 250 years ago - and it's true today.

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Here's one more. Sound Transit's Rainier Valley 4.5-mile light rail line was a year behind schedule and is already $35-million over budget. And now an arbitrator will decide how much more ST will have to pay to a contractor. The additional payment will be somewhere between $23-million and $68-million.

Will Sound Transit - and its media suck-ups - continue to peddle their "on-time and under-budget" nonsense?



  • Add A Comment

  • Dawson wrote...
    Report All the Facts Dori
    Dori, You either didn't watch the whole feature or you are choosing to only report part of the story. You are neglecting to report the part where Susannah Frame reported the reason the funds are so low is because the legislature chose to borrow money from them to use on other projects and has neglected to pay it back. There is even a payment plan in place for the moneys to be paid back into the fund, however the legislature has intentionally missed payments. Why should a firefighter/teacher/police officer who gave 30+ years of service to the state lose the pension they paid into for all of those years? Dori, I used to be a huge fan, but you have become so blinded by the hatred you have towards the government, I now question your integrity. You are no beter than any other reporter who leaves out facts to slant the story to their personal view. I used to listen to your show daily, now it's once a week at most and probably not more than an hour at that.
  • Kiro Listener wrote...
    Time to change the retirement system
    I agree that we should honor the agreement that we have made with our public servants but we certainly could change the retirement system for new hires. Something along the lines of the private sector where the worker contributes to a 401K with some employer matching funds. Do away with the pensions for new hires, times have changed, it's time the retirement system did the same.
  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    When the very first statement is bogus.....
    how credible can the rest of the rant be? Dori, never open an argument with an easily proven exaggeration or distortion.

    Had you used a statistically defensible number in the 17% range, instead of piling on another 5% for good measure, your argument would have been equally valid (or not) and your naked partisanship wouldn't be hanging out for all to see. One might suspect that your goal could be getting a lot of listeners to repeat what they hear without checking it out, thereby spreading a "buzz" more favorable to your preferred, currently out of power, political party.

    According the the New York Times last Saturday, the number of people out of work, combined with the people who wished they were getting more hours per week, and the number of people who wished they were earning more money every paycheck, and the traditional dead beats who never bother to look for work regardless of the economy is in the 17.5% range, not 22.

    http://tinyurl.com/yd672l2

    If another 5% have lost jobs since last Saturday, let's see some data.

  • serzsa wrote...
    Thanks, Dawson, you've completed the story
    and now what? What did it change? Did it exonerate government? Maybe Dori decided not to report that part because it had absolutely no relevance to his point? This whole PC crap (on one hand, on the other hand, some say, others say, you missed this, comma is in the wrong place) is sickening. Why don't people look for the forest instead of trees?
  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Over educated, over specialized, vs. un or under employed
    One of the chickens now perched on that roost is the natural result of educational and professional expectations in America. Fifty years ago, the most intellectually adept would attend college, earn a degree, and often without substantial difficulty begin a white collar career at the middle management level.

    During the last couple of generations, we collectively decided that all but the most scholastically challenged should attend college or university. It's about to the point where it now takes a bacehlor's degree to establish the same credibility that a high school diploma carried in the early 60's, and nobody is considered well educated without a master's degree or doctorate.

    There is often a total disconnect between the professions we train people to pursue and the market demand for those same workers. For example; teachers are being laid off in large numbers in many districts, very few new slots are expected to open, and yet here in Washington we're currently spending public money to educate thousands of teachers we will never be able to employ.

    Have there been any "help wanted" ads for historians specializing in French art? Comparative English literature analysts? The list goes on, and on. Yet everybody who graduates with such a degree can be considered "underemployed" if they are not working in their chosen, but very obscure field.

  • Jerry-Lynnwood wrote...
    Dawson -
    How do you pay back a fund you borrowed from - when you have no money to pay it back with - EXCEPT --> To TAX THE PEOPLE because the government OVER SPENT??? The only reason the "borrowed" from it was because they were BROKE!! (Why else do you borrow?) Seriously The Bill Still Comes Due... Let me explain. You have a savings account. You "borrow" from it because you got laid off and un-employment ran out. You plan to pay it back ... WITH WHAT???? The only way the Gov can "pay it back" is to TAX US! . o O ( Sigh ) Amazing, simply amazing!
  • slandc wrote...
    serza
    Dawson's point is entirely relevent because Dori was not slamming the government. His attack was on the pension plans provided by the governement and whether they should even be in place. You're right, it's the government's fault...they borrowed from the pension and haven't paid it back. They set the assumed ROI at 8% (in a pension plan? 5.5% should have been the assumed rate!). The plan's are not flawed but the trustees and custodians are and we will pay the price. Unfortunately, by pointing the finger at the plan itself, Dori is deflecting blame away from those who have caused us the most harm. I don't believe that's what he wanted to do.
  • kmw wrote...
    For those of you...
    Who continue to defend EVERYTHING the government is doing, why do you think Dori and so many other people are having a problem? The tax increases are unnecessary and robbing tax payers of their money, fiscal mismanagement practically slaps WA citizens in the face on a daily basis and the state needs to change. Apparently voting for new government leaders doesn't work so I don't know what to say. If you are convinced by the sugar coating they shove down our throats all the time... well... I feel sorry for you.
  • r_haines wrote...
    Chuck, Check your numbers.
    The numbers you quote in the New York Times article are calculated from the U-6 calculations, which only includes unemployed people out of work for less than one (1) year. If you include the unemployed over one year and still actively looking for work the number is around the 22% that Dori uses.
  • mpblue wrote...
    Thank you Legislature
    For as nearly as long as I have been in the LEOFF system, the legislature has looked to raid it. Never mind we contribute to it as employees (with usually annual increases in employee contributions), along with our city and county employers. Never mind it has been well managed and was set to be solvent for the forseeable future. But when Frank Chopp, along with other left AND right leaning politicians in this state, admitted that they wanted to raid it or defer the state's mandated payments, you knew they would default. Of all the programs in the state, this was probably the best managed. Naturally, the politicians just had to use it to their own needs. In part to that, my city has a 401(a) and 457 accounts we contribute to. The retirement/pension system will default and fail because politicians are using it as a piggy bank to fund programs that have no real merit, fund art in drive-by country, fund a myriad of things. Not unlike California or a host of other states. Shrug. For that matter, not unlike the federal Social Security program.








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