November 13, 2009 - 1:41 am

Was SPD beating justified?

The videotaped beating of a 15 year old girl in a holding cell by a King County Sheriff's deputy supposedly inspired the murder of Officer Tim Brenton by Christopher Monfort.

In the wake of that tragedy, the Seattle Police Department finds itself in the midst of another controversy. The video shows three officers using fists, batons, a flashlight and a Taser to subdue a man at their Georgetown evidence unit.

Here's the backstory: The man is 46-year-old Daniel Macio Saunders. You may remember the incident in June when Saunders was found naked and covered in blood after allegedly breaking into a church in the Rainier Valley. Haz-mat crews had to be called out to clean up the church because Saunders has hepatitis-C.

Saunders was mistakenly released from jail four days later (how that can happen is beyond me). When he returned to the evidence unit to retrieve some personal property, the cops were there to re-arrest him.

The police say Saunders grabbed a screwdriver, tried to injure the officers, and continued to resist.

Saunders, of course, has an attorney and is considering a lawsuit.

I did not support the sheriff's deputy's violent takedown of the 15 year old girl. Last week, I went after state patrol troopers who used phony college degrees to get raises. I do not blindly support the cops. But I will tell you that I see nothing in this videotape that proves the officers did anything wrong.

Police officers can use escalating force to subdue a suspect. Saunders feet are flailing - it looks to me that he is resisting.

I'll go after bad cops when merited. But I would caution the media to not stir up anti-cop hatred with a distorted view of "facts". Two weeks ago, we saw that can have tragic consequences.



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  • microP wrote...
    exactly
    You have hit every target here Dori. I watched the video, and while it does look bad the cops here did what they had to do. If they guy had a screwdriver, they really should have shot him. The beating by Paul Schene was wrong and so was the WSP fake diploma episode. You're batting 1000 Dori, Gov. Gregoire ought to make you 'Cop-Czar.'
  • Dawson wrote...
    Should have used more force
    The officers are lucky one of them didn't get hurt. They used way less force than the should have, particularly knowing this subjects violent history and that he started fighting immediately after they tried to take him into custody. This incident went on way too long. One of the "Ten Deadly Errors" for police officers is using less force than the should have for circumstances.
  • brianj wrote...
    Give up or Beat down
    I agree with Dori, when you are told to stop resisting then stop resisting or you get the beat down of you life and deserve it.
  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    The assault on the teenage girl as a "distorted view of the facts"?
    Dori and most other pundits in the region made endless use of the video showing the King County deputy throwing that 15 year old girl around the cell and sitting on her while he smashed her head repeatedly onto the concrete floor. The girl was said to have "talked back" when ordered into the cell, and when told to remove her shoes before stepping in to the holding cell she apparently flipped one shoe in the general direction of the deputy. A rowsing discussion occured in this forum, with several "law and order" types defending the cop and concluding she "had it coming" for lipping (and flipping) off.

    In the twisted and perverted mind of Christopher Montfort, that video was one of the so-called "justifications" for his crusade against police officers.

    Dori now refers to the video tape of the KCSD deputy beating down the teen age girl as a "distorted view of the facts"? and agrees that the showing the video had "tragic consequences"?

    Sometimes the truth has tragic consequences.

    The video of the deputy beating down the teenage girl was not a "distorted view" of the facts. It was a fairly clear sequence of events. What will undoubtedly be discussed at the deputy's trial is whether or not smart mouthing a cop or kicking off a sneaker in such a manner that it flies in the general direcion of the cop presented a threat that justified throwing her body around the cell and smashing her head on the concrete floor.

    The video itself is not a "distorted view of the facts"- it is a record of some of the facts the jury will be considering.

  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    That said, pull a screwdriver, threaten a cop.......
    and expect the cop to defend him or herself and expect any fellow officers in the area to pitch in as well.
  • Chuck Gould wrote...
    Help an old blind man.....
    watched that video twice. Never saw a screwdriver. Can anybody point out where, on the sequence timer, the suspect has the screwdriver in hand? (Why would they leave a screwdriver laying around in such an environment, anyway)?

    There's no reason not to believe the cops' side of this thing, but if the guy really takes this to civil court it will cost us a lot less to defend the cops if the video happened to capture an image of the guy actually threatening the cops with a screwdriver. Not saying it didn't happen, just that it isn't obvious in the video.

  • fortune42 wrote...
    Once again
    You people are idiots, you see nothing wrong, how bout I repeatedly jab you with a baton, I didn't see a screw driver. As for the 15 year old girl, that guy needs to go to prison for life. Note that my (2) word expletive, beginning with the letters f, and b, describing the guy, was not allowed in my comment.
  • eric von zipper wrote...
    I'm ok with it, but I do wonder this...
    couldn't 3 guys, equipped with plastic zip ties, pretty quickly isolate a guy's wrists "zzzzip"... move on to the ankles...isolate those "zzzip" and leave him hogtied on the floor in short order? Why the protracted action, baton stuff, etc?
  • GlassBoxShoes wrote...
    Screwdriver?

    He *might* have had one on his person, but he certainly never had the opportunity to use it.

    Screwdriver or not, if you want to roll with law enforcement prepare to get beaten. They should get extra pay for having to beat someone with blood-borne disease.

  • Peach4044 wrote...
    Hey, kids! Don't hold doors open for cops!
    If resisting arrest can be defined as "holding the door open for the cops as they approach", then Dori is 100% correct on this. I'm also assuming that if he had a screwdriver, then the evidence unit put it in his hands seconds before the police's entry. I surely see a yellow slip of paper in the Sauders's hands, which can also be construed as a weapon -- if he had crazy origami skills. Perhaps he can fold a paper knife as fast as the officers read him his miranda rights. Also, I've also heard that legs tend to lose control when the body is tazered. This event reminds me of that Everett cop who tazered a man, and shot him to death when his boxed-in car lurched forward. That individual cop didn't look so clean on that one either.








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