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Trading Iwakuma could bolster Mariners' offense
Hisashi Iwakuma has been one of the best pitchers in baseball in 2013, but with a number of top prospects waiting in the wings, the Mariners best option might be to trade the Japanese export.
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  • clevesside wrote...
    Does Brent Stecker.....
    ...employed by David Stern, by any chance? Just wondering. Sounds like he doesn't care for Seattle as well; less seen & heard, the better..
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  • Steve Dallas wrote...
    Dumbest idea ever
    Trade away talent like we've done over and over for the last 10+ years? Give away our good players for "potential" that NEVER pans out. Absolutely the dumbest idea ever.
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  • Stevil wrote...
    Missed the point
    It doesn't hurt to listen. If you're dealing from a position of leverage, why would you say no without hearing what the offer is first? You think they haven't listened to the offers for Felix? I'm not keen on the idea of trading Iwakuma either. But if, for example, he could headline a reasonable package to net us an outfielder like Stanton, would it seem so crazy? We currently have 5 outfielders scheduled to hit free agency next season. Future pitching is far less of a concern than figuring out an outfield roster, especially given a thin FA crop this coming offseason. Makes perfect sense to at least listen to offers.
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  • Derrol_o wrote...
    Not dumb really
    It boils down to whether or not the M's can utilize Iwakuma here or if he's a wasted talent. What's the point of keeping him around on a team that has no chance of doing anything? Your argument holds water if Iwakuma is 10 years younger but this is an ideal "sell high" time for the M's right now. The past is one thing but can't dictate the future. The M's just need to do a better job trading for the right players that will pan out. It boils down to talent eval.
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  • seattle sports fan 13 wrote...
    Tired of....
    Rooting for a 4A team. Stop trading the good players and keeping the trash!
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  • Pilate wrote...
    Amateur IT Department
    MyNorthwest.com/Bonneville comes through again. On the Mariners home page, this article is titled as a "Brock & Salk" blog.

    Clean it up, guys, along with all the random comments from months past that get appended to AP news stories.

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  • Dan1 wrote...
    They are 9 back already
    look into what is going on with the manager and the rest of Wedges shety staff. This team is not going to go any where but with this coaching staff. Wedge looks absolutely lacksadaisical in the dugout day after day!!!
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  • Kimby wrote...
    Very Disappointing thought Brent.
    Are we really going down this road again? Why the Media wants to suggest breaking up a good pitching staff. Looking at the Mariners past history of trading Pitching for Offense, You can definitely see that the players aquired by the mariners were disappointments and non-productive in the end. The best alternative in my opinion would be to continue to strengthen the #3 - #5 postions in the rotation, and to try add offense through other methods, such as promotions.
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  • jaybosch wrote...
    Really!
    Trading away another good pitcher for a potential prospect hitter? How has that worked out in the recent past? ie. Justin Smoak, Montero! Although Motntero hasn't hurt too bad cuz what has the pither done in new York to make that a bad trade in hindsight. but getting rid of a good pitcher who should be good for a few years for a "potential hitter" is a bad idea. at least keep the "D" as good as it can be. Grow the hitters up in the farm. Why does seattle have such a hard time developing hitters since Griffey?
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  • jaybosch wrote...
    There is something fundamentaly wrong!
    In the mariners organization. They can't evaluate hitters like they do pitchers. There they are doing a great job. They need a like mind as Shneider and Carrol. A Great evaluator and coach who can bring the best out of them. Until they get that they will never be a great team. They need to start over at GM and Manager until they get the right guys. But I don't think the current owners have the balls to do it! Ie. Paul Allen getting rid of Mora after one year cuz he could see it was going no where after one year. Paul Allen is a great owner and the current Mariner owners will never be that. The problem I think is the ownership!
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  • Lessmith50 wrote...
    jaybosch
    Why have they not developed any players since Jr.? That is simple they are the worst franchise in all of baseball at evaluation the talent evaluators. What do you expect from Dumb and Dumber (Lincoln/Armstrong)? Those two clowns have only made one good hire in their regime. That was Pinella/Gillick. What happened there? Dumb and dumber stuck to the bottom line when Pinella/Gillick want to make the moves to better the team. Dumb and dumber who know jack shoot about anything related to baseball let those two walk. What do you expect? I expect exactly what has happened. I have been saying this for almost ten years now. This team will never be any good until those two clown are sent packing any you hire real baseball minds. Guys who live and breath baseball all their lives. Not the gameboy CEO and a washed up attorney. PLEASE SELL THIS TEAM NOW!
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  • Cle Elum Jules wrote...
    Pat Gillick
    Let us take a look at what the teams Gillick has run have done since he left them: 1). Toronto- Hasn't been anywhere near the post season since '93 2). Baltimore- Hasn't been a factor since '97 until MacPhail took over in the early 2000's. 3). Philadelphia- Won one, lost one WS; struggling to stay relevant now that the core is getting old. Gillick led to the demise of the teams just as much or moreso than he contributed to their success. Toronto's WS winning teams were built by Roy Hartsfield (before Gillick). Baltimore's farm system was gutted by Gillick so when he left, the cupboard was bare. Philly's core of talent that led them to success was drafted by Ed Wade when he was the GM there. Even Seattle's young core of talent was brought together by Woody Woodward, not Gillick. Gillick is a vulture!!
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  • Derrol_o wrote...
    jaybossch
    "Why does seattle have such a hard time developing hitters since Griffey"? That's the million dollar question. Something's clogging the pipeline between Tacoma and Seattle. Countless hitting prospects do fine in AAA (as fine as prospects from other organizations have done) but then when they get the callup they just fall flat. If they could ever get to the bottom of the problem, the M's will be looking really good. As it is, it's been keeping them in the lower half of the league for several years now.
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  • Eta Huinya wrote...
    Dimwit
    You keep a stud like Iwakuma, you do not trade them with so two years left on a fairly reasonable (for baseball) price tag. I'm sure you were one of those 'brilliant'people who insisted the M's had to trade Felix before he left in free agency, only to watch him do what he said all along and sign here to stay.
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  • jaybosch wrote...
    Who's Dimwit?
    If you are talking about writer of article I completely agree!
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  • Kimby wrote...
    Some transactions that have not been very beneficial
    February 8, 2008: The Baltimore Orioles traded Erik Bedard to the Seattle Mariners for Tony Butler (minors), Adam Jones, Kameron Mickolio, George Sherrill and Chris Tillman. July 31, 2008: The Seattle Mariners traded Arthur Rhodes to the Florida Marlins for Gaby Hernandez (minors). July 10, 2009: The Kansas City Royals traded Derrick Saito (minors) and Dan Cortes to the Seattle Mariners for Yuniesky Betancourt. December 16, 2009: The Philadelphia Phillies traded Cliff Lee to the Seattle Mariners for J.C. Ramirez (minors), Tyson Gillies (minors) and Phillippe Aumo December 23, 2009: The Toronto Blue Jays traded Johermyn Chavez (minors) and Brandon League to the Seattle Mariners for Brandon Morrow. July 9, 2010: The Texas Rangers traded Matthew Lawson (minors), Blake Beavan, Josh Lueke and Justin Smoak to the Seattle Mariners for Cliff Lee, Mark Lowe and cash. August 4, 2010: The Philadelphia Phillies traded player to be named or cash to the Seattle Mariners for Mike Sweeney. December 2, 2010: The Colorado Rockies traded Chaz Roe (minors) to the Seattle Mariners for Jose Lopez. January 23, 2012: The Seattle Mariners traded Jose Campos (minors) and Michael Pineda to the New York Yankees for Jesus Montero and Hector Noesi. November 20, 2012: The Seattle Mariners traded Trayvon Robinson to the Baltimore Orioles for Robert Andino. February 13, 2013: The Seattle Mariners traded Shawn Kelley to the New York Yankees for Abraham Almonte (minors). February 20, 2013: The Seattle Mariners traded Mike Carp to the Boston Red Sox for player to be named or cash. In my opinion, some of these were just awful.
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  • Checkmate wrote...
    Better yet...
    Why don't we just trade Felix AND Iwakuma for some "potential" hitting. The author of this article HAD to have written this crap just for the feedback. Ok,I give. You're an idiot.
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  • rikilee wrote...
    head shaker
    This,,,,was a special kind of stupid
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  • fiddlepimp wrote...
    I agree
    I agree with all the comments. This is a stupid idea.. We don't need another hitting star like Montero, Smoak etc.
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  • Hawkman wrote...
    I agree also..
    this guys has proven to be the only reason we are even still close to be in it. if he goes we go.
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