GEE & URSULA

Should unprepared drivers be stopped from going over the pass?

Dec 10, 2021, 12:42 PM

snoqualmie pass...

Snow plows out on Snoqualmie Pass in December 2021. (Photo courtesy of SnoqualmiePass/Twitter)

(Photo courtesy of SnoqualmiePass/Twitter)

It’s expected to be stormy this weekend, and that usually spells trouble for the mountain passes.

Drivers frustrated as they wait for Snoqualmie Pass to reopen

It has already been a frustrating week for drivers going over Snoqualmie Pass because of spinouts that have shut down the highway in both directions.

While some drivers blame the closures on unprepared drivers traveling without chains, all-wheel drive, or four-wheel drive, others tell KIRO 7 TV they’re worried that staffing shortages at the state transportation department will mean fewer and slower plows on the road this winter.

WSDOT workforce shortage could mean more closed roads this winter

So, as KIRO Radio’s Gee and Ursula Show asked, should we get tougher on people who attempt to go over mountain passes totally unprepared?

Host Gee Scott says yes.

“We do it in a very simple way,” he suggested. “No, don’t give them tickets. No, don’t have a state trooper there to flag someone if they don’t do it. Now, if you roll over into a ditch, if you cause an accident out there with no chains on your tires and are not properly prepared, then the money that it costs the state to come to you is billed to you.”

“That’s a terrible idea,” producer Andrew Lanier replied.

“You’re not going to get a ticket. But if you expect tax dollars to help you out of that ditch because you chose not to have the snow tires, then you’re paying for it,” Gee said. “Why are we paying for your carelessness?”

“But what about the people who are still going to be stuck in traffic? How about just stopping them before they even get close to the pass and just say, ‘look, you’re not prepared,'” host Ursula Reutin said.

And, she says, when they say chains required, enforce that chains are required.

“You know what the problem is in this country? We don’t ever want to take care of things,” Gee said. “We always want to give a ‘yeah, but,’ to these situations.”

“That doesn’t fix the problem, that creates a punitive punishment for people who may not have the means to put snow tires on their car,” Lanier said about Gee’s idea. “I’d rather they just not have the option of getting on the pass in the first place.”

“Yes, don’t get on the pass,” Ursula agreed.

Gee argued people are usually too lazy to go get snow tires, not that they don’t have the means.

“Did you get decaf this morning? You’re feisty,” Lanier joked.

Find winter driving tips from the Washington State Department of Transportation online here.

Listen to the Gee and Ursula Show weekday mornings from 9 a.m. – 12 p.m. on KIRO Radio, 97.3 FM. Subscribe to the podcast here.

Gee and Ursula Show

Gee & Ursula

seattle times cunningham story...

Gee Scott and Ursula Reutin Show

‘You print it, you don’t spike it’: Gee believes Seattle Times shouldn’t have spiked Sophie Cunningham story

Explore why Gee and Ursula believe Matt Calkins' column shouldn't have been spiked by The Seattle Times.

17 hours ago

income tax wa millionaires language...

Gee Scott and Ursula Reutin Show

‘I wouldn’t be surprised if it was intentionally confusing’: Ursula questions ballot language on WA millionaires’ tax repeal

Washington voters face confusing ballot language on income tax repeal. Discover Ursula's insights on this important issue.

2 days ago

Seattle rebar settlement...

Gee Scott and Ursula Reutin Show

‘They half-cheeked that job’: Spike says Seattle got off easy in $775K rebar settlement

Seattle pays $775K to settle a claim from a man injured by rebar, raising questions about safety and responsibility in public works.

2 days ago

ask ursula divorce...

Ursula Reutin

Ask Ursula: Amid a combative divorce, how do I handle a friend who’s in love with me?

Dear Ursula, I'm 58 and in the middle of a contentious divorce from a narcissistic doctor who stripped me of nearly everything.

3 days ago

seattle mayor junk fees rent recall approval wilson...

Gee Scott and Ursula Reutin Show

‘You knew what you voted for’: Gee says don’t act shocked as Katie Wilson’s approval plunges amid recall effort

A new poll shows only one in three Seattle voters trust Mayor Wilson's safety plan as recall efforts intensify, and Gee Scott wonders why people are surprised.

3 days ago

andrea suarez we heart seattle...

Gee Scott and Ursula Reutin Show

‘As if I’m some kind of grifter’: We Heart Seattle founder fires back at state probe as Gee and Ursula press her on accountability

We Heart Seattle founder Andrea Suarez said she gave up a corporate career, invested $25,000, and spent three years picking up trash for free.

3 days ago

Should unprepared drivers be stopped from going over the pass?