KIRO NEWSRADIO OPINION

‘I hope it works’: Curley’s skeptical but rooting for Seattle’s $60M Social Housing project

May 31, 2026, 5:00 AM | Updated: Jun 2, 2026, 7:01 am

Seattle’s first Social Housing project raised $130 million in its first year, with the funding used to purchase a $60 million, 150-unit apartment building near Pike Place Market.

Through a lottery system, people can apply for one of the 60 affordable units for those earning less than 50% of the area’s median income, with the remaining units being given to high-income earners.

John Curley, host of “The John Curley Show” on KIRO Newsradio, discussed the nature of the mixed-income housing plan, in which some residents may earn no income at all yet live alongside some of Seattle’s higher-income earners.

“You can have no money at all, zero. You don’t make any money, and the apartment costs per unit about $406,000,” Curley said. “The people that are in there right now, they’re saying, listen, ‘If you stay, we will freeze your rent for two years.’ The question becomes, are the people all going to be happy living in that building? There are two different studies and data, one that says no, the people who make a lot of money don’t want to live next to people who don’t make a lot of money.

“Why? Their habits, their lifestyles don’t always jive well together, and then people who make a whole lot of money don’t like living next to somebody who doesn’t make any money, because there’s a particular lifestyle that that person might have that doesn’t fit in with the other people who are really enjoying a charcuterie board and avocado toast. This will be interesting,” Curley continued.

‘They have the ability to move somewhere else’: Why Curley doubts the plan will work

Curley explained how the entire plan could unravel simply because those currently living in the building have the resources and luxury to move away if they see fit, leaving a 90-unit gap in the building.

“When it comes to public housing, it fails. Why does it fail? Because the rich people don’t pick a building, they pick a neighborhood, they pick their neighbors,” Curley said. “They have the ability to move somewhere else, and they will move somewhere else if they can. So, will the people who are in there right now, will they stay, and will they be happy living next to people that are, you know, sort of struggling in life?

“Listen, I hope it works for a number of reasons,” Curley continued. “If the study that I had seen from a couple of years ago showed that people will assimilate to better behavior, that’s great. When you have money in something, you want it to work; that’s why the free market always beats the government markets that are being created, and in this case, it is a government market, which is the apartment unit. Hopefully, it’s well-maintained, and hopefully they do a good job, since it’s a lottery system.”

KIRO producer Joe Wallace forecasted that he doesn’t see the plan working simply because of the lottery system available to applicants, and the bare minimum asking price on income required to join.

“Yeah, I just don’t see them taking just a crazy drug addict who’s been on fentanyl for three years and lives in a tent,” said KIRO producer Joe Wallace. “I don’t think they’re going to make that work. And if somebody’s working a very low-paying job, but at least they’re working, you know.”

Correction: The story has been edited to accurately reflect the amount of money Seattle’s first Social Housing project raised in its first year

Listen to John Curley weekday afternoons from 3 – 7 p.m. on KIRO Newsradio, 97.3 FM. Subscribe to the podcast here.

John Curley on KIRO Newsradio 97.3 FM
  • listen to tom and curleyTune in to KIRO Newsradio weekdays at 3pm for The John Curley Show.

John Curley

KIRO Newsradio Opinion

I-638...

Gee Scott and Ursula Reutin Show

‘Who gets to question whether a girl is a girl?’: Gee and Ursula expect legal fight as Seattle School Board weighs suing over I-638

The Seattle School Board could vote Monday to take legal action against I-638, a ban on transgender girls competing in girls' school sports.

9 hours ago

ferguson nba commissioner...

Jake Skorheim and Spike O'Neill Show

‘This feels like very bad news’: Jake questions Seattle’s NBA expansion chances after Ferguson’s latest meeting with Adam Silver

Gov. Bob Ferguson's meeting with NBA Commissioner Adam Silver raises concerns about Seattle's chances for a SuperSonics return.

17 hours ago

A full shopping cart is seen at Walmart. (Photo: Will Newton, Getty Images)...

Gee Scott and Ursula Reutin Show

‘You can’t budget your rent’: Gee challenges budgeting advice as WA tops the nation in estimated grocery spending

Washington residents face high grocery costs, raising questions over traditional budgeting advice. Explore the financial implications.

20 hours ago

seattle center diwali festival...

Charlie Harger

Harger: Kids danced at Seattle Center’s Diwali festival. 2 men showed up with racist signs

Saturday at the Seattle Center Armory, kids were dancing on stage at Diwali. Then two men walked in with American flags. One sign used a slur for Indian people.

20 hours ago

Seattle restaurant revel la palma price...

Gee Scott and Ursula Reutin Show

‘The prices here are outrageous’: Gee and Ursula discuss Seattle dining costs as her favorite restaurant closes

Ursula's favorite Seattle restaurant is closing, and Gee Scott sees a broader problem behind the struggles facing local dining spots: higher prices.

2 days ago

holiday travel costs relatives airline airfares...

John Curley Show

‘It’s outrageous’: KIRO hosts say rising airfares are putting family visits out of reach

Rising airfares are making family visits harder to afford, KIRO hosts describe the tension between travel costs and spending time with relatives.

2 days ago

‘I hope it works’: Curley’s skeptical but rooting for Seattle’s $60M Social Housing project