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 Dave Ross

What happened to global warming being a hoax?

August 9, 2012 @ 8:42 am (Updated: 9:35 am - 8/9/12 )

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Government temperature records go back 117 years, but they're never shown anything like what we've been seeing lately. (AP)

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Government temperature records go back 117 years, but they're never shown anything like this.

"We just came out of our fourteenth warmest month on record. That has not happened before in our period of record," said one NOAA scientist.

14 record months! Surpassing even the dust bowl of the 1930s.

Which surprises me because wasn't Global Warming supposed to be a hoax?

Weren't professors like Berkeley's Richard Muller telling us back in 2008 to be skeptical, especially of the idea that human activity was to blame?

"There will be some big hurricane somewhere and someone will say global warming or there will be an extra hot period in Europe and someone will say global warming. When they do that, they're doing a combination of two things, one is cherry picking and the other is exaggeration," said Muller.

Any variations were likely natural due to sunspots, or volcanoes. But suddenly in 2012, the message is very different.

A CNN report in 2012: "We're able to rule out solar variability, able to rule out volcanos. When we tried fitting it to see whether it looked like carbon dioxide, it was right on," said the report.

By the way, that's a quote from the same Richard Muller who was so skeptical in 2008. He says sure you could argue it's all a coincidence..."But it leads me to conclude that essentially all of this warming over the last 250, 260 years has been caused by green house gases emitted by humans," said Muller.

It's not fair, all those people who said it was a hoax, when's the big reveal that Mother Nature was just kidding?

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  • sportsguru wrote...
    I think it is common sense
    August 9, 2012 8:00 am

    To believe we have man made global warming, are there scientist that will exagerate this fact in order to get government funding, he// yes and I believe that's what has happened in the last 10-20 years.

    I think it is downright idiotic to think that our ever growing technology, planes, etc and there exhaust flying through our clouds, space ships and satellites exiting and entering our solar system would not at some point change something to the point either good or bad, our continue waste of valuable resources (look around we are building on just about every piece of natural land almost), that nothing will effect our environment.

    I just don't get why anybody don't expect some type of change due to our habits as a society?

    If you can convince me otherwise, I will shut the phuuck up.

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  • logical open mind wrote...
    I now believe in man caused global warming, however, the rub is what can we do about it without destroying world economies. Plus
    August 9, 2012 8:09 am
    if countries take a big hit, which will slow down already dormant economies, have more people not working, take more gov money to try and stop GW, what good will it do if china, India, Brazil and emerging nations dont comply. Can this warming trend truly be stoped until a new cleaner energy source is found. Also, it wont be a terrible as some say, farms will move north, people will cope and survive.
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  • ron prevost wrote...
    It's STILL a hoax in Seattle (dang it)
    August 9, 2012 8:18 am
    But, Dave, why less than 30 years after the LAST 'global warming' of the 1930s were scientists warning (in the 1960s) about a 'coming ice age'? ... And why was it so warm 1000 years ago that the Norse were able to thrive in Iceland and at least colonize Greenland? ..... Conversely, why did 'the Little Ice Age' of about 1300 to 1815 freeze out the Greenland Norse and cause the River Thames to freeze hard every year?

    Scientists are like everyone else. They jump to conclusions based on short term or limited information. Super hot this year (except, again, US) but cool in the 50s. Maybe June snows in Denver again by 2020? Long term, Dave, not short term.

    Of course if you go REALLY long term, 750,000,000 years ago the Earth was ALL covered in ice - but 75,000,000 years ago, you had dinos sunning themselves at the poles.

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  • SeattleNative wrote...
    It became a hoax...
    August 9, 2012 8:27 am
    ...when they renamed it "Climate Change".

    NEWSFLASH: the climate always has been and always will be constantly changing.

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  • jmcgladr wrote...
    Yeah sure...
    August 9, 2012 5:22 pm
    RENAMING "global warming" to "climate change" made it a hoax! Great logic that!
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  • Paul Kersey wrote...
    there is plenty to worry about
    August 9, 2012 8:33 am
    such as the impending collapse of modern civilization due to the mind control techniques that have been successfully employed on masses of liberal progressive rubes who follow the various self destructive, popular culture, false religions.

    Once the new dark ages begin, it will be of little importance how hot the Earth is. After the nukes go off, it is supposed to get much cooler anyway.

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  • Wild Bill wrote...
    DAVE
    August 9, 2012 8:39 am
    it's not called global warming anymore. It's catastrophic climate change. Yes, it is real, the proof is indeed in the global pudding.
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  • Wild Bill wrote...
    AJ McCarrell
    August 9, 2012 8:42 am
    please list the credible scientific sources you are referencing. Sean Hannity and Rush don't count. Also, can't you see, AJ, how the police are involved in this? Speak to that Brother, it makes you sound so intelligent.
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  • Wild Bill wrote...
    XKOP
    August 9, 2012 8:42 am
    please cite your credible sources. Steve Q and Alex Jones don't count,,,or matter.
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  • Hayduke wrote...
    If a well-respected Koch Brothers funded scientist has changed his tune on global warming, then that's good enough for me:
    August 9, 2012 8:57 am
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/richard-muller-koch-brothers-funded-scientist-declares-global-warming-real-article-1.969870
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  • jhosford4 wrote...
    only one area
    August 9, 2012 9:15 am
    There was thing thing called the ice age...it's been warming since. We aren't changing that. There are two areas to be carful about though. 1)I am a little worried about dessertification (growing of desserts such as the Sahara becuase of deforestation). Fewer forests = less carbondioxide being pulled out of the air and less oxigen created. so we just need to be careful about that. Isreal has shown a great applity to reclaiming desserts, bringing in rain, and recreating farming industrustris over a 10-20 year period. We should be doing that around the Sahara, and other desserts. 2) Though i don't believe we are affecting things now, i do believe that we could reach that point some day. So why not start fixing the problems and advancing our "clean" technologies now before it becomes a problem.
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  • MrMoPar426 wrote...
    I have no doubt
    August 9, 2012 9:20 am
    that Climate Change exists. I have no doubt that mankind has affected the environment and climate for the worse. I do doubt that mankind is the primary (or even secondary) cause of climate change. We most definitely need to take the best care of our environment that we can but that needs to be balanced with the needs to provide jobs, food, clothing and shelter for the billions of humans on the Earth. The efforts to protect the environment need to be realistic, not pie-in-the-sky plans to spend billions and trillions that will have no appreciable effect. We need to be good stewards instead of trying to be masters of the Earth.
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